Am 22.07.2014 16:27, schrieb Maarten Lankhorst:
> op 22-07-14 16:24, Christian K?nig schreef:
>>> No, you really shouldn't be doing much in the check anyway, it's meant to 
>>> be a lightweight check. If you're not ready yet because of a lockup simply 
>>> return not signaled yet.
>> It's not only the lockup case from radeon I have in mind here. For userspace 
>> queues it might be necessary to call copy_from_user to figure out if a fence 
>> is signaled or not.
>>
>> Returning false all the time is probably not a good idea either.
> Having userspace implement a fence sounds like an awful idea, why would you 
> want to do that?

Marketing moves in mysterious ways. Don't ask me, but that the direction 
it currently moves with userspace queues and IOMMU etc...

> A fence could be exported to userspace, but that would only mean it can wait 
> for it to be signaled with an interface like poll..

Yeah agree totally, but the point for the fence interface is that I 
can't predict what's necessary to check if a fence is signaled or not on 
future hardware.

For the currently available radeon hardware I can say that reading a 
value from a kernel page is pretty much all you need. But for older 
hardware that was reading from a register which might become very tricky 
if the hardware is power off or currently inside a reset cycle.

Because off this I would avoid any such interface if it's not absolutely 
required by some use case, and currently I don't see this requirement 
because the functionality you want to archive could be implemented 
without this.

Christian.

>
> ~Maarten
>

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