On 2/10/25 5:07 AM, Robert Nowotny via dovecot wrote:
A default dovecot (el9 rpm) install is compliant as it does not work and does not do anything, it is just a bunch of binaries on a disk.

and how exactly this answer is useful ?
oh my, I am feeding the troll again ....

I see it as a useful editorial comment, albeit phrased in a trollish way. And, as trolls will be, it does not show a lot of gratitude for an enormous amount of sincere work that has been put into Dovecot.

A more constructive--though still negative--version might be "A default el9 RPM install of Dovecot does not work, it requires significant effort before it does anything useful.".

That is useful news. My default install of Dovecot 2.3 on Debian 12 (and on several versions before) all *did* work for me, with a minimal amount of appropriate effort.

I have since discovered that replication/dsync on Debian 12 is a little like the above "default dovecot (el9 rpm) install": It does not work. At least not without significant effort. And even though I now *seem* to have it working (no crashes reported in this morning's logwatch e-mail!), to get this far I had to make my own very unnerving guess at how to fix sources and compile my own custom .deb files. Even a completely vanilla build of Debian sources had two failing tests and no help on the mailing list as to whether that is something to worry about or not…so I commented them out and crossed my fingers. I don't consider Debian an obscure distribution, so this seems like news, too.

I wish I had known all this *before* I had embarked on setting up my new servers. When I was searching around about how to configure replication some comments along these lines (snarky or not) would have been useful to me. Even now I would still like some information as to how much I should trust this last edition of replication, the swansong before it was removed for version 2.4. (As cobbled together by me, I got no response at to whether my patch was sensible or not.)

A program like Dovecot is the sort of thing that is hard to know whether it works until one has switched real work over to it, at which point it can be too late. So reports from those who precede, even snarky reports, are useful.

-kb
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