In all fairness here, Gmail/Outlook play by their own rules and
people just accept them because it's free.

Try sending a spam message that Gmail sends you, back to them and see
what happens.

Yeah.​​

On Tuesday, 26/11/2024 at 05:14 Marc via dovecot wrote:



> > >
> >
> > Your system reporting false positives, that is what I am trying to
> tell
> > you!
> >
> >
> Maybe that is in your opinion because you can not send him direct
mail?
> Why

No, it is not an opinion it is a fact. That is the huge difference
here. There is some sort of logic in my reasoning, while ignoring
false positives and working with old data has little.


> are you sending him direct mail anyway? This is a mailing list, you
> should
> only be replying to the list.

I also don't know, I guess outlook does this by default, I am not even
looking at it :)


> To outsiders this is kind of cryptic, but sounds like you failed DNS
> testing that Noel uses in making an accept/reject decision so he is
> blocking you? 

His data is old and incorrect. Since when has a dns configuration to
do with spam? From my experience it is often that such weird measures
are created out of a lack of ability to really address and implement a
targeted solution. 

He can't even prove there was spam send from this network. If I block
a network, I at least make sure we have original message and store it.
So we can say "Your network send this on that date".


>So rather than sit here generating noise, making this
> original thread useless now, you go fix you DNS problems and who
knows,
> maybe you won't get blocked, if you are not going to do that, live
with
> your decision and move on so this thread can get back to normal.
> 

Up until now I did not notice much expertise from you, for me to take
your advises. Besides, this does illustrate the 'irrationality' and
lack of innovative thinking in smaller companies which drives people
into the direction of large providers like gmail and outlook.com



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