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Pete.
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: Pete Long <p...@valar.uk.net>
> Subject: Re: EXPUNGED Folder Always Visible
> Date: 6 June 2024 at 09:43:50 BST
> To: Robert L Mathews <li...@tigertech.com>
>
>
>
>> On 5 Jun 2024, at 19:18, Robert L Mathews via dovecot <dovecot@dovecot.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> On Jun 5, 2024, at 12:21 AM, Pete Long via dovecot <dovecot@dovecot.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> After a restart of Dovecot, I see this in the logs:
>>>
>>> Jun 05 08:12:07 imap(pete)<19761><KPYfSB8aj4dWH1ne>: Error: Mailbox Deleted
>>> Messages: Lazy-expunge transaction failed: Mailbox Deleted Messages: UID=1
>>> 67: lazy_expunge: Couldn't open expunge mailbox: Failed to open mailbox
>>> .EXPUNGED: Invalid mailbox name: Begins with hierarchy separator
>>
>> Hmmm, I'm not sure about that -- in my setup I have something different,
>> with no actual mailbox for it:
>>
>> namespace {
>> hidden = yes
>> inbox = no
>> list = no
>> location = maildir:~/expunged
>> prefix = .EXPUNGED/
>> separator = .
>> type = private
>> }
>> plugin {
>> lazy_expunge = .EXPUNGED/
>> lazy_expunge_only_last_instance = yes
>> ...
>>
>> Perhaps someone else who has a similar setup to you with it as a mailbox can
>> offer more advice, sorry!
>>
>
> Not to worry Robert, you've given me some useful information.
>
> I have a workaround now which 'works for me' (TM). The gist is to copy an acl
> file to the .EXPUNGED mailbox when it is created, which is usually when a
> mail is sent, moved or deleted. I am not using global acls so note the
> commented line in the next paragraph.
>
> In /etc/dovecot/conf.d/50-expunge.conf:
>
> namespace inbox {
> mailbox EXPUNGED {
> autoexpunge = 7days
> autoexpunge_max_mails = 100000
> }
> }
>
>
> mail_plugins = $mail_plugins lazy_expunge acl
> plugin {
> # Move messages to an .EXPUNGED mailbox
> lazy_expunge = EXPUNGED
>
> # Define ACL so that user cannot list the .EXPUNGED mailbox
> #acl = vfile:/etc/dovecot/global-acls/expunged-acl
>
> # Expunged messages most likely don't want to be included in quota:
> quota_rule = EXPUNGED:ignore
> }
>
>
> Once the ~/Maildir/.EXPUNGED directory is created, I copy this 'dovecot-acl'
> file in to that .EXPUNGED directory:
>
> owner wstipeka
>
> Note that there is no l,r or x.
> https://doc.dovecot.org/configuration_manual/acl/#acl
>
>
> The end result is that the .EXPUNGED mailbox contains deleted and moved mail
> items but the user cannot see this mailbox and cannot delete it anyway.
>
> If necessary I can fire up Mutt and traverse to the relevant users .EXPUNGED
> folder to rescue deleted items. If they also happen to have FTP and/or SSH
> access, I can make the dovecot-acl immutable if necessary.
>
> Thanks again Robert for giving me some more options.
>
>
> All the best,
>
> Pete.
>
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