> > > >
> > > > > > > breaking the mail index
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Tangentially query: is Dveocot smart enough to  optimize
> mailbox
> > > > > renaming
> > > > > >  to do index renaming (i.e. does not try to copy or recreate
> > > indices)?
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Dovecot is, if you use LAYOUT=index. This will use only mailbox
> GUID
> > > on
> > > > > disk, and the folder name is only in indexes (both list index and
> > > mailbox
> > > > > index for recovery purposes).
> > > > >
> > > > > I would recommend using 2.3.21 with LAYOUT=index to avoid
> problems.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > So you can just add this to an existing configuration, without the
> need
> > > to do anything? Like eg reindex or so? I always had the impression
> this
> > > affects how messages are stored.
> > > >
> > > > mail_location = mdbox:xxxxxx:INDEX=xxxxxx:CONTROL=/xxxxxxx
> > > > becomes:
> > > > mail_location =
> mdbox:xxxxxx:INDEX=xxxxxx:CONTROL=/xxxxxxx:LAYOUT:index
> > > >
> > > > Does this really speed things up?
> > > >
> > >
> > > You can't put it on existing setup just like that, you need to do
> storage
> > > format migration, or copy all the folders into their GUID folders
> when
> > > you do this.
> > >
> > > It will speed things up and will also allow you to use almost
> anything as
> > > mailbox name.
> > >
> >
> > I was in the process of setting up new server, it already had a few
> test mailboxes on it.
> >
> > why do you mention this specific version 2.3.21? el9 still is at
> 2.3.16.
> >
> 
> Because we have fixed issues with index layout since 2.3.16. It will work
> with 2.3.16 too but there are issues you'd probably not want to deal
> with, most importantly:
> 
>       - LAYOUT=index List index rebuild was missing.
>       - LAYOUT=index: Duplicate GUIDs were not detected.
> 
> which were added in 2.3.17 and futher fixed in later versions. It's a
> chore to dig up specific versions, so I recommend using the latest.
> 
> > So if I add the LAYOUT:index to mail_location for my mdbox setup, it
> only renames Drafts,INBOX,Junk etc to some uuid (I guess)?
> >
> > ├── mdbox
> > │   ├── dbox-alt-root
> > │   ├── mailboxes
> > │   │   ├── Drafts
> > │   │   │   └── dbox-Mails
> > │   │   ├── INBOX
> > │   │   │   ├── dbox-Mails
> > │   │   │   └── test
> > │   │   │       └── dbox-Mails
> > │   │   ├── Junk
> > │   │   │   └── dbox-Mails
> > │   │   ├── NotSpam
> > │   │   │   └── dbox-Mails
> > │   │   ├── Sent
> > │   │   │   └── dbox-Mails
> > │   │   └── Trash
> > │   │       └── dbox-Mails
> > │   └── storage
> > │       ├── m.1
> > │       ├── m.2
> > │       ├── m.3
> > │       ├── m.4
> > │       ├── m.5
> > │       └── m.6
> >
> > This server is offline any way. What would be the easiest way to do
> this migration? Something I can do directly on this server?
> 
> If there are only few accounts, you can configure new mail location with
> LAYOUT=index and use doveadm sync / backup to migrate mails there, then
> move things over the old stuff - or copy old stuff elsewhere and do the
> same to current location as new.
> 

I tested with this

doveadm sync -u testacc 
'mdbox:/home/testing/testacc/mdbox:INDEX=/home/testing/testacc/index:CONTROL=/home/testing/testacc/mail/control:LAYOUT=index'

Which gives me the expectec result. But I have also an archive namespace and an 
alt namespace that is going to be quite a lot of moving around on this 
production server. Not to mention having all these messages copied. Is this 
really the most efficient way to migrate to such id folders?

├── index
│   ├── dovecot.list.index
│   ├── dovecot.list.index.log
│   ├── dovecot.mailbox.log
│   ├── mailboxes
│   │   ├── 36179613fa3330637557000052412a8e
│   │   │   ├── dovecot.index.cache
│   │   │   └── dovecot.index.log
│   │   ├── 67b77b07fa3330635457000052412a8e
│   │   │   └── dovecot.index.log
│   │   ├── 7908061cf23330634d57000052412a8e
│   │   │   ├── dovecot.index.cache
│   │   │   └── dovecot.index.log
│   │   ├── 80628213e4f562613b27000052412a8e
│   │   │   ├── dovecot.index
│   │   │   ├── dovecot.index.backup
│   │   │   ├── dovecot.index.cache
│   │   │   └── dovecot.index.log
│   │   ├── a2585d3ae5714e636229030052412a8e
│   │   │   └── dovecot.index.log
│   │   ├── b45e8a3819f662614d27000052412a8e
│   │   │   ├── dovecot.index.cache
│   │   │   └── dovecot.index.log
│   │   └── c07dd6138d5d3063615b000052412a8e
│   │   └── dovecot.index.log
│   └── storage
│   ├── dovecot.map.index
│   └── dovecot.map.index.log
├── mail
│   └── control
│   └── subscriptions
└── mdbox
├── mailboxes
│   ├── 36179613fa3330637557000052412a8e
│   ├── 67b77b07fa3330635457000052412a8e
│   ├── 7908061cf23330634d57000052412a8e
│   ├── 80628213e4f562613b27000052412a8e
│   ├── a2585d3ae5714e636229030052412a8e

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