On 04 May 2020, at 11:44, hanas...@gmail.com wrote
>  Have also tried typing smtp://host:25  and https://host:25

Can’t help you with thunderbird (which I consider one garage above garbage) but 
port 25 is not a TLS port and will not be sending a cert challenge.



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