>>> On 3 Sep 2019, at 15.30, Coy Hile via dovecot <dovecot@dovecot.org> wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> Is there anything cute one has to take into account when using Dovecot with >>> users of Apple’s Mail.app? >>> Behavior I’m seeing is that if I delete or move messages via Webmail >>> (Roundcube, Horde, or even ActiveSync >>> via Mail.app on my phone), they do get moved or deleted. However, if I >>> take the same actions in the desktop >>> mail client, when logging in to the Webmail (or phone) app, I see the >>> messages still seeming to be in the Inbox. >>> Is this known behavior? A peculiarity in Apple Mail? >> I am using Apple Mail.App in Macbook, iPhone and iPad. And in fact >> quite many of us internally are doing the same >> and I can't see that behaviour. Mail.App correctly obeys \Deleted flag >> and does not show the mails in folders. >> Sami > > That's exactly the converse of what I'm seeing. Mail.app sets the \Deleted > flag, or flags a message as Junk > and moves it to the Junk folder. But when I login via, say, Roundcube, it > still shows in the inbox, though > greyed out with a little (/) icon (which I assume is the deleted flag.) If I > move or delete the message via > the webmail client, it actually gets moved to Junk or Trash. (Or wherever I > moved it.) > > FWIW, I think this applies only to deleted messages (where Mail.app may just > set a flag rather than actually moving > the messages to Trash) and to Mail.app's own Junk processing. (Things flagged > as Spam and moved to Junk via Sieve do > end up in the Junk folder.)
Apple Mail does not show messages anymore when the \Deleted flag is set. They are moved to trash only if a mailbox for deleted messages is set in preferences. Usually they are removed (expunged) from the server a month later. Roundcube on the other hand displays \Deleted messages greyed out (strikethrough in some versions) by default. The ability to just mark messages as \Deleted is a nice feature. Imagine deleting 100000 small statusmails without unnecessary i/o. It may stress your disks (local and server) when that many mails are moved around before being expunged. Best regards Gerald
