On 17.2.2013, at 22.04, Michael Grimm <trash...@odo.in-berlin.de> wrote:

> On 17.02.2013, at 11:08, Timo Sirainen <t...@iki.fi> wrote:
> 
>> There may be some other features that require unique hostnames in
>> future. Anything where multiple Dovecot servers need to communicate
>> between each others.
> 
> I'd like to come back to that issue in order to understand your statement 
> cited below.
> 
> First of all: whenever you referred to "hostname" in this thread you have 
> been using it as a synonym for the local part [1] of a FQDN, right?

I mean what gethostname() function returns, which is what "hostname" command 
usually also returns. And yes, I think it's the local part always.

> I have both servers of mine configured to use identical local parts ("test") 
> but different FQDN (aka "test.domainA.tldA" and "test.domainB.tldB"). Your 
> fix has been to replace "my_hostname" by "my_hostdomain()", thus using 
> "test.domainA.tldA" and "test.domainB.tldB" instead of "test", right?

Yes.

>> If some day there is such generic communication between Dovecot servers
>> I'm planning on enforcing this requirement.
> 
> Given that all my interpretations of your statements are correct I do have 
> difficulties in understanding why a "generic communication between Dovecot 
> servers" should be limited to enforcing different local parts of all Dovecot 
> servers implied instead of different FQDN? That would make much more sense 
> regarding uniqueness in hostnames, IMHO. Two servers like 
> "dovecot.forget-about.it" and "dovecot.you-name.it" should be able to 
> communicate generically, again: IMHO.

I think systems named those would belong to different clusters and wouldn't 
need to communicate with each others.

I looked through the code. The hostname (without domain) are currently used for:

 * maildir filenames
 * temporary filenames
 * authentication challenge strings in some auth mechanisms
 * logging

So I think the hostname uniqueness matters mainly when using a shared 
filesystem (e.g. NFS).

> BTW: I had had defined "hostname=" in dovecot.conf identically using 
> completely different *but* identical FQDNs "mail.my-domain.tld" because of:
> 
> | conf.d/15-lda.conf:
> 
> | # Hostname to use in various parts of sent mails, eg. in Message-Id.
> | # Default is the system's real hostname.
> | #hostname = 
> 
> At least my_hostdomain() doesn't care about that setting, right? 

Right. I updated the comment a bit: 
http://hg.dovecot.org/dovecot-2.2/rev/6a67a1440e15

lda_hostname would have been a better name for the settings.

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