Am 03.09.2012 12:15, schrieb Voytek Eymont:
>> but hey, for you this is EOD because you know it better
>>
>> SMTP STARTTLS: 587
>> SMTP over SSL: 465
>> POP3 STARTTLS: 110
>> POP3 over SSL: 995
>> IMAP STARTTLS: 143
>> IMAP over SSL: 993
> 
> 
> in my limited experience, when I tried to set Outlook Express clients with
> my Dovecot 2, I couldn't get to do ssl/tls on port 110, only on 995;
> (I think..? I struck same with IMAP, couldn't get ssl/tls on 143, but, got
> it on 993)

it's a microsoft problem

> question:
> is it because Outlook Express does SSL only, but not TLS?
> (or is it simply because it's crappy application ?)

because it is a crappy application

you see htunderbird perfectly switching between STARTTLS/SSL ports
you can configure each webmail i know to use STARTTLS
you can configure even Apple Mail for both usecases

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