Marcia,

Thank you for the license links and your appraisal.

Your choosing GNU Linux to feature will be welcome.  There are also some 
variations to consider, since different desktop Linux distributions may have 
somewhat different application appearance and, in particular, install 
differences when AOO is not furnished by the distribution.  

I don't know if you consider BSD Unix and FreeBSD within your reach or not.  
The CC-By licensing will be favorable there.  Also, some Linux distros might 
provide AOO as an installable option.  I think BSD also did that, in the past.  
I don't know if the practice has been continued.

There is now a Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL) as a native subsystem (not 
just under a VM).  I have no idea whether anyone uses AOO for production use in 
that case, but a reviewer might with regard to checking your Getting Started 
drafts.  The installation of WSL improves with each W10 release, and the 
ability to launch Windows apps from the WSL (and vice versa) is improving all 
the time.  <https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/install-win10>.

I wish you success in creation of a Getting Started guide that is oriented to 
what Linux users will see and need to know for successful application of Apache 
OpenOffice Linux-targeted release versions.

 - Dennis


-----Original Message-----
From: marcia wilbur <ai...@well.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 21:32
To: doc@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: Getting Started Guide (was Proposed Process for Documentation)

Hi. According to CC 3.0 - there must be information regarding changes being 
made in general. "if changes were made" However, I did not see any indication 
of specifics (that might be time consuming but maybe like a changelog for docs) 
Here is the link to cc 3.0 info
[orcmid] 
<https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/> and also 
<https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/>
[orcmid] 

No additional restrictions - You may not apply legal terms or technological 
measures that legally restrict others from doing anything the license permits.


I did not realize the GNU Linux user base was so low... even then.
However, I will continue the effort for the 3% or so - because I'm weird like 
that. I started the Get Started, I'll see it through. Thank you for the 
information.

In this case,  I would say - an effort for the larger user base is important. 

Someone who is willing to take on the Windows content - making this more 
current would be a good idea. 
Are we using gitbox?

I won't touch Windows, I don't have windows... but I can mark up and give 
feedback for that taming or whatever doc using OO and provide 
feedback/recommendations for documentation. However, do not associate me with 
any Windows effort - haha :)

The feedback is for everyone. 

Thanks.




----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Hamilton" <orc...@msn.com>
To: doc@openoffice.apache.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:29:52 AM
Subject: RE: Getting Started Guide (was Proposed Process for Documentation)

Two things,

 1. It is useful to know the demographics of Apache OpenOffice users.  The 
latest board report does not break out downloads by platforms and languages any 
longer.   In October 2015 this was the breakdown for AOO 4.1.1 downloads at 
that point in time:

   87.7% were for Windows
    9.1% were for Macintosh
    3.2% were for everything else, including Linux

The prevalent languages have tended to toggle between English and French.

I would be surprised to learn that this pattern has changed in any significant 
way.

The Community Forums activity might also be valuable in this respect, and 
easier to find.

Of course, for documentation, how different platforms are supported is up to 
those willing to develop such documentation.  I have no quarrel, especially for 
Getting Started, with addressing whatever platforms an author wants to 
specialize for to accommodate the readers.

 2. I understand that the contributor of a document under CC-BY specifies how 
attribution is to be made.  I am not aware that there is any requirement to 
specify the changes made.  Normally, one simply provides the attribution and 
source of the document(s) on which the derivative is based.

Marcia, can you point us to where in the CC-BY description that changes must be 
identified?

 - Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: marcia wilbur <ai...@well.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 02:28
To: doc@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: Getting Started Guide (was Proposed Process for Documentation)

[orcmid] [ ... ]

One thing to mention - is the taming doc is under CC 3.0.
This requires attribution and indication changes were made with a deriv

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