On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 3:05 PM, De Angela Jackson < deangela.m.jack...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Throwing in another 2 cents (I'm up to 4!): > > Why not try to get an objective outside opinion? > > http://idratherbewriting.com/ <--pretty good blog from a technical > writer who wasn't always a technical writer. He might be able to look > at the whole situation and maybe give some advice and direction if > asked. Who knows? > ​Previously the documentation project was mainly steered by Sun engineeers. Specifically Frank Peters and Clayton Cornell You can see a conference of them in 2007 http://ooocon.kiberpipa.org/media/Doc_next_The_Future_of_the_Documentation_Project/play.html I have a goog relationship with Clayton and I am sure he could lend a hand if asked, but for that I would like to see a roadmap that we can follow.​ > > > De Angela > > On 4/30/15, jonathon <toki.kant...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 30/04/15 15:29, Regina Henschel wrote: > > > >>And you cannot blame the people, who write for LibreOffice. There are > > so few persons working on LibreOffice documentation, that they cannot > > follow the changes in LibreOffice soon. > > > > I'll grant that ODFAuthors doesn't have many people. Regardless, that > > point is irrelevant here. (Well, it is relevant, to the point of > > considering why ODFAuthors isn't actively involved in AOo documentation.) > > > >> It is not reasonable to expect that these people care about Apache > > OpenOffice. > > > > Some of the people in ODFAuthors were willing to either write original > > documentation where needed, and/or modify/adapt LibO documentation to > > reflect the changes/differences in AOo. Do note the use of the past > > tense here. > > > >> If we decide to use ODF Authors, it would be possible without problems. > > > > Then when did most of the ODFAuthors resign from the AOo documentation > > project? > > > > More pointedly, why did the former head of the AOo Documentation project > > resign? (Need I point out that the wiki page lists that individual as > > the current head of AOo documentation.) > > > >> But working with ODF Authors means, to follow a special workflow. And > when > >> authors do not like that workflow, you cannot force them to use ODF > >> Authors. > > > > Every organization that creates documentation, has a workflow. > > Sometimes that workflow is clearly defined, outlined, and includes > > everything that the content creator needs, in order to produce quality > > output. Sometimes that workflow is not only not defined, but manages to > > omit everything that the content creator needs, in order to produce any > > output. > > > > Whilst one can't force authors to follow a specific workflow, a clearly > > defined, rational workflow process makes it much easier for authors to > > create their content. > > > > The process that ODFAuthors uses, is based on their experience of > > creating documentation. Some aspects can be exasperating, but on the > > whole even those aspects are beneficial to the content creator. > > > > Keith wrote: > > > > Johnathon; > > > >>If you have concrete proposals to avoid what you obviously saw as flaws > > in the previous efforts now would be the time to make them, > > > > What I'm saying, is to look at the history of the project, from the days > > that it was StarOffice. Look at how documentation (both quality and > > quantity) has increased, and decreased over that time, and, more > > importantly where and how it was produced. > > > > To see what is, in effect,an entire documentation team, resign thrice, > > indicates that major issues keep re-ocurring. Furthermore, it can't be > > said that it was the same few people who were unhappy, because at least > > two of those documentation teams had no individuals in common. > > I'm not sure how much, if any overlap, there was between the third of > > those teams, and either of the other two. > > > > jonathon > > > > * English - detected > > * English > > > > * English > > > > <javascript:void(0);> > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614