On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 3:05 PM, De Angela Jackson <
deangela.m.jack...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Throwing in another 2 cents (I'm up to 4!):
>
> Why not try to get an objective outside opinion?
>
> http://idratherbewriting.com/  <--pretty good blog from a technical
> writer who wasn't always a technical writer.  He might be able to look
> at the whole situation and maybe give some advice and direction if
> asked.  Who knows?
>

​Previously the documentation project was mainly steered by Sun engineeers.
Specifically Frank Peters and Clayton Cornell
You can see a conference of them in 2007
http://ooocon.kiberpipa.org/media/Doc_next_The_Future_of_the_Documentation_Project/play.html

I have a goog relationship with Clayton and I am sure he could lend a hand
if asked, but for that I would like to see a roadmap that we can follow.​



>
>
> De Angela
>
> On 4/30/15, jonathon <toki.kant...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 30/04/15 15:29, Regina Henschel wrote:
> >
> >>And you cannot blame the people, who write for LibreOffice. There are
> > so few persons working on LibreOffice documentation, that they cannot
> > follow the changes in LibreOffice soon.
> >
> > I'll grant that ODFAuthors doesn't have many people. Regardless, that
> > point is irrelevant here. (Well, it is relevant, to the point of
> > considering why ODFAuthors isn't actively involved in AOo documentation.)
> >
> >> It is not reasonable to expect that these people care about Apache
> > OpenOffice.
> >
> > Some of the people in ODFAuthors were willing to either write original
> > documentation where needed, and/or modify/adapt LibO documentation to
> > reflect the changes/differences in AOo. Do note the use of the past
> > tense here.
> >
> >> If we decide to use ODF Authors, it would be possible without problems.
> >
> > Then when did most of the ODFAuthors resign from the AOo documentation
> > project?
> >
> > More pointedly, why did the former head of the AOo Documentation project
> > resign? (Need I point out that the wiki page lists that individual as
> > the current head of AOo documentation.)
> >
> >> But working with ODF Authors means, to follow a special workflow. And
> when
> >> authors do not like that workflow, you cannot force them to use ODF
> >> Authors.
> >
> > Every organization that creates documentation, has a workflow.
> > Sometimes that workflow is clearly defined, outlined, and includes
> > everything that the content creator needs, in order to produce quality
> > output. Sometimes that workflow is not only not defined, but manages to
> > omit everything that the content creator needs, in order to produce any
> > output.
> >
> > Whilst one can't force authors to follow a specific workflow, a clearly
> > defined, rational workflow process makes it much easier for authors to
> > create their content.
> >
> > The process that ODFAuthors uses, is based on their experience of
> > creating documentation. Some aspects can be exasperating, but on the
> > whole even those aspects are beneficial to the content creator.
> >
> > Keith wrote:
> >
> > Johnathon;
> >
> >>If you have concrete proposals to avoid what you obviously saw as flaws
> > in the previous efforts now would be the time to make them,
> >
> > What I'm saying, is to look at the history of the project, from the days
> > that it was StarOffice. Look at how documentation (both quality and
> > quantity) has increased, and decreased over that time, and, more
> > importantly where and how it was produced.
> >
> > To see what is, in effect,an entire documentation team, resign thrice,
> > indicates that major issues keep re-ocurring. Furthermore, it can't be
> > said that it was the same few people who were unhappy, because at least
> > two of those documentation teams had no individuals in common.
> > I'm not sure how much, if any overlap, there was between the third of
> > those teams, and either of the other two.
> >
> > jonathon
> >
> >   * English - detected
> >   * English
> >
> >   * English
> >
> >  <javascript:void(0);>
> >
> >
>
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