On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 9:16 AM, HP <theca...@aim.com> wrote:
> On 03/28/2014 10:19 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 5:06 AM, HP <theca...@aim.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Guyz,
>>>
>>> I hope you are OK with me intervening here, I am "pretty new" to this
>>> thing.
>>>
>>> I think we need to, as a team, focus on one specific guide or per
>>> chapter.
>>> Split the work by chapter, once you have finished yours, ask if others
>>> need
>>> help.
>>> Maybe we could have someone check the Writer guide, for a start. I am not
>>> even sure where all this stuff is located in wiki.
>>>
>>
>> The "new" guides are here:
>> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/UserGuide
>>
>>
>>
>> I have only just started and made very minor edits because I am trying to
>>> get used to the style and stuff.
>>>
>>> I am an experienced tech writer, with a consultant background. I do not
>>> have tons of time, but can help out here and there.
>>>
>>> My primary interest at the moment is with the "internal" help. Like
>> you, I
>> am just getting started with that. When I get a bit further along, I hope
>> to share some ideas.
>>
>> Out of curiosity, what documentation tools have you worked with or prefer?
>>
>
> I have worked with SAP KW, Arbotext XML, oXygenXML (XML editing and XSLT),
> docbook, xslt, xsl-fo, JSPWiki, vim and a bunch of other unix command line
> utils, subversion, cvs ...
> Currently, I author in vim using JSPWiki style syntax and produce a 2000
> page book ... without counting the generated apidocs. I author the XSL in
> oXygenXML and use renderx for xslfo PDF generation. I use sed, awk, and
> grep quite a lot.
>
> I used to author XML directly ... spent more time formatting than actually
> writing content, then you have the Word/Arbotext crap where you have to
> live in formatting hell. Keeping formatting simple makes everything easier,
> especially if you have to change the styling.
Ok, thanks for this info. Really it is very helpful.
>
>
>
>>
>>
>>> I think we need some structure somewhere, what do you think ? Just me two
>>> cents ;-)
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> HP
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 03/22/2014 11:01 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Dave <davepo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure, but possibly the first step would be to have a list of
>>>> all
>>>>
>>>>> the best documentation so far. I personally don't use documentation
>>>>> much,
>>>>> just google around. I do use the internal Help of OpenOffice though.
>>>>> What
>>>>> are the average user's habits? If I were to use documentation, I guess
>>>>> it
>>>>> wouldn't be general documentation, but ratther documentation on how to
>>>>> solve specific tasks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good points. Maybe the topic of another survey?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 22 March 2014 17:54, Keith N. McKenna <keith.mcke...@comcast.net>
>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 19/03/2014 Keith N. McKenna wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In other fields we notice that it is important to involve and empower
>>>>>>> new volunteers quickly and easily. For example, a new documentation
>>>>>>> volunteer would now have the problem that he needs a wiki account
>>>>>>> created (and he needs someone to do it, since registration is
>>>>>>> currently
>>>>>>> disabled) and then a welcome message on what to do, and then a list
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> tasks...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If the more active people here could have all necessary privileges to
>>>>>>> answer prospective volunteers with a "Welcome, we created a wiki
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> account
>>>>>> for you, a couple of small tasks that you can do to start are X and
>>>>>> Y",
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> this would be much more effective.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I should have all the necessary privileges, at last on the mwiki.
>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> problem I see is that I am just about the only person active right now
>>>>>> and I am tired of putting fourth the effort to draw people in and in
>>>>>> better than 80% of cases nothing comes of it. I am willing to try
>>>>>> again,
>>>>>> but I can not do it alone. We need to be able to attract experienced
>>>>>> technical writers that can guide volunteers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Should you wish to try it, let us know and we'll look into what's
>>>>>> needed
>>>>>> to give you (Keith, or other active volunteers who want to take care
>>>>>> of
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> this) the necessary privileges.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Andrea.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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