On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Ricardo Berlasso <rgb.m...@gmail.com>wrote:
> 2013/7/18 Natasha Selvey <nysel...@gmail.com> > > > On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Ricardo Berlasso <rgb.m...@gmail.com > > >wrote: > > > > > 2013/7/18 Natasha Selvey <nysel...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > Here is my second round of proposed changes. > > > > > > > > I think we should move Tables, Images and OLE objects, Frames, > Sections > > > and > > > > Autotext out of the first section "Getting to know Writer", leaving > > > > "Getting to know Writer" with the upfront basics and later moving on > to > > > > these topics. > > > > > > > > Tables and Images would get their own pages. > > > > > > > > Frames and Sections go into a page for "Formatting pages". > > > > > > > > Autotext goes into the current "Working with text" page. > > > > > > > > Current outline: > > > > > > > > 1. Getting to know Writer > > > > 1. Writer's User Interface > > > > 2. Writer's Sidebar > > > > 3. Tables (move to its own page - expand on information) > > > > 4. Images and OLE Objects (move to its own page - expand on > > > > information) > > > > 5. Frames (move to new page - "Formatting pages") > > > > 6. Sections (move to new page - "Formatting pages") > > > > 7. Autotext (move to "Working with text") > > > > 2. Working with Text > > > > 1. Numbered list and bullets > > > > > > > > Proposed outline: > > > > > > > > 1. Getting to know Writer > > > > 1. Writer's User Interface > > > > 2. Writer's Sidebar > > > > 2. Working with Text > > > > 1. Numbered list and bullets > > > > 2. Autotext > > > > 3. Formatting Pages > > > > 1. Frames > > > > 2. Sections > > > > 4. Tables > > > > 5. Images and OLE Objects > > > > > > > > Please send me your concerns or an okay to move forward. Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > Sounds good for me! You are doing a really great job here! > > > > > > Just a "conceptual" point: frames and sections are not about formatting > > > pages, but about filling them with well defined "blocks of content" > that > > > are in a sense separated and somewhat independent from the rest of the > > > document. In fact, the only way to give format to pages is using page > > > styles and page breaks. > > > > > > I agree that grouping frames and sections is a good idea but I'm not > sure > > > which is the best label to group them: IMO "formatting pages" is not > > really > > > appropriate... "Content containers" came to my mind, but I must admit > > that > > > it is maybe a bit confusing for a title. Perhaps something on this > line? > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the input. I think I understand what you are saying. Perhaps > > frames and sections are not about "formatting pages" but creating a > layout? > > Would it make more sense to group frames and sections as "Creating page > > layout"? Or is this just another way of saying "formatting"? > > > > As I see it, layout is related with formatting. The main point is that > both, sections and frames can be "pushed" to different pages so they do not > belong to any page. In a sense, sections and frames set "boundaries" for > blocks of content, but those blocks can be moved, so what about > > "Bounding" Content: Frames and Sections > > or > > "Enclosing" Content: Frames and Sections > > I think this (or something similar, my English is limited) gives the idea > of how both elements work: they enclose arbitrary content on definite > limits. One (sections) with the possibility to expand on top of several > pages, the other (frames) living only on one page. > > What do you think? > > Regards > Ricardo > > > > > > > Natasha Selvey > > > That sounds good to me. I may have to think about a topic page title a little more, I want it to be clear to the reader. Something like "Containing content with frames and sections" or simply "Working with frames and sections". -Natasha
