Hi Shane!

On 5 Nov 2024, at 13:13, Shane Kerr <sh...@time-travellers.org> wrote:

> I wrote a quick draft to specify that answers returned should be returned in 
> a random order:
> 
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-kerr-everybodys-shuffling/

I think that you might need to nail down what "random" means. I presume you 
don't mean random in the xkcd-221 sense, for example. You probably don't mean 
lava-lamp or double-pendulum random either, at least not as a MUST. Would it be 
ok for an rrset to be shuffled once per minute rather than every time a 
response is generated?

More generally from your OARC talk I think your experience is that  
(paraphrasing) not shuffling is fine for most people, but sometimes causes 
problems. Does it make sense to translate that into a normative MUST for the 
protocol?

I think good practice on the consumer end of this is to understand that 
addresses obtained from a dns response be treated as an unordered set and not 
an ordered list. Maybe it makes sense to talk about recommendations there as 
well as recommendations for DNS responders?


Joe

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