> On 22 Oct 2024, at 5:18 PM, Tobias Fiebig <tob...@fiebig.nl> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> it seems odd to me to recommend that auth DNS servers should take
>> steps to avoid fragmentation of responses (sec 4.1) while no such
>> recommendation exists for recursive resolvers (sec 4.2). To avoid the
>> issues with fragmentation and IPv6 the measures proposed in draft-
>> ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation should apply to recursive resolvers as
>> well as auth servers.
> 
> dig +dnssec AAAA
> creagneruvOwsebsyavdicDibHocNievVusDyolryntikduWubPyheaveetGear.creagne
> ruvOwsebsyavdicDibHocNievVusDyolryntikduWubPyheaveetGear.creagneruvOwse
> bsyavdicDibHocNievVusDyolryntikduWubPyheaveetGear.creagneruvOwsebsyavdi
> cDibHocNievVusDyolryntiuWubGear.wybt.net
> 
> AL5DBzICSGhKkUQHCABFAAFCwYAAAEARpRLDv8XFw7/F0+JeADUBLldDrGEBIAABAAAAAAA
> BP2NyZWFnbmVydXZPd3NlYnN5YXZkaWNEaWJIb2NOaWV2VnVzRHlvbHJ5bnRpa2R1V3ViUH
> loZWF2ZWV0R2Vhcj9jcmVhZ25lcnV2T3dzZWJzeWF2ZGljRGliSG9jTmlldlZ1c0R5b2xye
> W50aWtkdVd1YlB5aGVhdmVldEdlYXI/Y3JlYWduZXJ1dk93c2Vic3lhdmRpY0RpYkhvY05p
> ZXZWdXNEeW9scnludGlrZHVXdWJQeWhlYXZlZXRHZWFyNGNyZWFnbmVydXZPd3NlYnN5YXZ
> kaWNEaWJIb2NOaWV2VnVzRHlvbHJ5bnRpdVd1YkdlYXIEd3lidANuZXQAABwAAQAAKRAAAA
> CAAAAMAAoACN8kbpsmGGJt
> 
> tfiebig@rincewind ~ % echo
> 'AL5DBzICSGhKkUQHCABFAAFCwYAAAEARpRLDv8XFw7/F0+JeADUBLldDrGEBIAABAAAAAA
> ABP2NyZWFnbmVydXZPd3NlYnN5YXZkaWNEaWJIb2NOaWV2VnVzRHlvbHJ5bnRpa2R1V3ViU
> HloZWF2ZWV0R2Vhcj9jcmVhZ25lcnV2T3dzZWJzeWF2ZGljRGliSG9jTmlldlZ1c0R5b2xy
> eW50aWtkdVd1YlB5aGVhdmVldEdlYXI/Y3JlYWduZXJ1dk93c2Vic3lhdmRpY0RpYkhvY05
> pZXZWdXNEeW9scnludGlrZHVXdWJQeWhlYXZlZXRHZWFyNGNyZWFnbmVydXZPd3NlYnN5YX
> ZkaWNEaWJIb2NOaWV2VnVzRHlvbHJ5bnRpdVd1YkdlYXIEd3lidANuZXQAABwAAQAAKRAAA
> ACAAAAMAAoACN8kbpsmGGJt'| base64 -d | wc -c
> 336


I'm sorry but I don;t understand the point you are making here.




> 
>> It would also be informative for the draft to include some analysis
>> of recursive resolver behaviour on UDP timeout in a dual stack
>> scenario. Should a recursive resolver retry the query using the other
>> protocol (and take another <timeout> interval if the server is non-
>> responsiver?) Or should the recursive resolver simply move on to the
>> next authoritative server for the name being queries? A similar
>> question exists for TCP connection attempt timeouts.
> 
> I would argue that this is out-of-scope for the current draft, as it
> goes deep into HE territory (see, also, the recent shot at HE3 that
> introduced protocol selection aspects).
> 

HE territory? For the acronym challenged (myself included) what
are you referring to here?

I would've though that a document that is recommending dual stack
operation of DNS resolvers would either provide some clarification on
its dual stack behaviour or provide a pointer to an RFC that
contains this clarification.

thanks,

 Geoff




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