Hi Eric
Arnaud Taddei
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> On 4 Oct 2024, at 14:07, Eric Rescorla <e...@rtfm.com> wrote:
> 
> I don't really think it's helpful to re-litigate the broader topic of the 
> merits of ECH; nothing we say in security considerations will make a material 
> difference there.
Fundamentally same line for me

> With that said, I don't love the last sentence as we know users don't really 
> choose their resolvers. How about simply stating the facts:
> 
> "This specification does not effectively conceal the target domain name from 
> an untrusted resolver."
Sounds pragmatic

> 
> 
> -Ekr
> 
> 
> On Thu, Oct 3, 2024 at 9:41 AM Salz, Rich <rsalz=40akamai....@dmarc.ietf.org 
> <mailto:40akamai....@dmarc.ietf.org>> wrote:
>> I do not think this conflict of views can be resolved. The draft is intended 
>> to show how it ECH should be used to preserve it’s security guarantees, and 
>> there are groups in the DNS community who say this prevents their normal 
>> course of operation, and providing the features that they provide.  I 
>> apologize in advance if anyone finds my wording clumsy or, worse, offensive. 
>> I was trying to use neutral words throughout.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I think we just acknowledge that in the security considerations and declare 
>> the issue closed.
>> 
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