Hi Klaas,

On Aug 1, 2024, at 20:33, Klaas Wierenga via Datatracker <nore...@ietf.org> 
wrote:

> Reviewer: Klaas Wierenga
> Review result: Has Nits
> 
> The draft reads well and is clear. I have one question that is maybe worth
> answering in the security considerations. What is the impact of retrieving the
> trust anchors over http instead of https? Does that lead to a risk of ending 
> up
> with an invalid set of trust anchors?
> 
> Klaas

There are risks of ending up with an invalid set of trust anchors regardless of 
what method is used to retrieve them. The use of TLS might mitigate some risks, 
but it does not eliminate them (e.g. it does not address the risk of a 
compromised CA issuing a certificate, or that the document being retrieved over 
HTTPS has been modified at rest by some unauthorised third party.

There are compensatory controls that can be used to mitigate particular risks, 
but the decision to mitigate particular risks and the choice of mitigation will 
surely vary significantly depending on the nature of the relying party. For 
some applications, trust-at-first-use might be perfectly appropriate. Others 
might require different measures to be taken. Some might consider retrieving 
the XML document described in this document to be too risky to do at all, and 
might insist on manual, in-person attestations and verification of new trust 
anchors before use.

I think it would be inappropriate for this document to try and catalogue all 
possible use-cases and risks around this. However, I can see how it might be 
useful to add a sentence saying this kind of thing out loud. I have not 
discussed this with my co-authors but I am interested to hear their reaction.


Joe

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