I appreciate the reminder. It's best not to mix them. I've requested a
timeslot for NS selection in the DNSOP session at IETF120.

Davey

On Wed, Jul 3, 2024 at 11:19 PM Ben Schwartz <bem...@meta.com> wrote:

> Hi Davey,
>
> To clarify, the "DNS Load Balancing" side meeting will not be concerned
> primarily with nameserver selection.  Instead, the topic of the side
> meeting will be about using DNS to perform load balancing of other services
> and protocols.
>
> I think this draft's term ("Nameserver Selection") is good, and we should
> use that to distinguish it from "DNS Load Balancing".
>
> There is certainly some overlap between these notions (as each can be used
> to implement the other in some fashion), but I would prefer to let both
> topics mature separately for now.
>
> --Ben
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> *From:* Davey Song <songlinj...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 3, 2024 2:47 AM
> *To:* dnsop <dnsop@ietf.org>
> *Subject:* [DNSOP] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-zhang-dnsop-ns-selection-00.txt
>
> Hi folks, I noticed the momentum on DNS load balancing and NS selection
> topics. Our co-authors have just compiled a draft summarizing the research
> findings and best practices in this field, and made some recommendations
> for developers on secure
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> Hi folks,
>
> I noticed the momentum on DNS load balancing and NS selection topics. Our
> co-authors have just compiled a draft summarizing the research findings and
> best practices in this field, and made some recommendations for developers
> on secure and robust NS selection algorithms. Comments are welcome.
>
> Davey
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> From: <internet-dra...@ietf.org>
> Date: Wed, Jul 3, 2024 at 2:19 PM
> Subject: I-D Action: draft-zhang-dnsop-ns-selection-00.txt
> To: <i-d-annou...@ietf.org>
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>
> Internet-Draft draft-zhang-dnsop-ns-selection-00.txt is now available.
>
>    Title:   Secure Nameserver Selection Algorithm for DNS Resolvers
>    Authors: Fenglu Zhang
>             Baojun Liu
>             Linjian Song
>             Shumon Huque
>    Name:    draft-zhang-dnsop-ns-selection-00.txt
>    Pages:   18
>    Dates:   2024-07-02
>
> Abstract:
>
>    Nameserver selection algorithms employed by DNS resolvers are not
>    currently standardized in the DNS protocol, and this has lead to
>    variation in the methods being used by implementations in the field.
>    Recent research has shown that some of these implementations suffer
>    from significant security vulnerabilities.  This document provides an
>    in-depth analysis of nameserver selection utilized by mainstream DNS
>    software and summarizes uncovered vulnerabilities.  Furthermore, it
>    provides recommendations to defend against these security and
>    availability risks.  Designers and operators of recursive resolvers
>    can adopt these recommendations to improve the security and stability
>    of the DNS.
>
> The IETF datatracker status page for this Internet-Draft is:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-zhang-dnsop-ns-selection/
>
> There is also an HTMLized version available at:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-zhang-dnsop-ns-selection-00
>
> Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at:
> rsync.ietf.org::internet-drafts
>
>
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