Hi! Eventually, draft-farrell-tls-wkesni became:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-tls-wkech/
It would be great if input/review from DNSOP came in ;)

Cheers,
spt

> On May 17, 2022, at 22:50, Warren Kumari <war...@kumari.net> wrote:
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> On Tue, May 17, 2022 at 11:39 AM, Stephen Farrell <stephen.farr...@cs.tcd.ie> 
> wrote:
> Hi all, 
> 
> At IETF 113 a draft of mine [1] was presented (slides [2]) at the dispatch 
> session. Part of the upshot there was to check with dnsop if people felt 
> asking for adoption here would be the right plan for this draft. 
> 
> The draft is concerned with (re-)publishing ECHConfigList values in 
> SVCB/HTTPS RRs as the keys for ECH are rotated, but in the context where the 
> ECH private key holder and the DNS publishing entities differ. As an FYI, ECH 
> interop servers operated by Cloudflare and by me rotate such keys hourly so 
> some new automation is needed for cases where one does not have some kind of 
> dynamic DNS API available.
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> 
> <no hats, personal view only, objects in rear-view mirror may be closer than 
> they appear, etc/>
> 'k,  so about the only terms I recognize from the above are 'DNS' and 'RR' - 
> the rest are deep TLS arcana…. to my mind that makes it seem much more like 
> it should be adopted in something like TLS, with some input / review from 
> DNSOP / HTTPBIS…
> 
> W
> 
> P.S: Yeah, yeah, ok, I also recognized the others, but my point is that the 
> document is much more (to my mind) related to TLS and well-known URIs and 
> similar, and that the DNS bit is much more secondary...
> 
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> To be clear: my own opinion is that adopting this in dnsop would not be a 
> good plan, but that asking the TLS WG would be the right plan instead. That 
> said though, even if this were adopted by TLS, I think it'd benefit from 
> input from dnsop (and httpbis), once the adopted form of the draft had taken 
> would could be a near-final overall shape. And who knows, maybe I'm wrong and 
> this'd be better handled here. 
> 
> So - do people here consider it'd be useful to try for a call for adoption 
> for this in dnsop, or do you agree with me that doing that in the tls wg 
> would be better? 
> 
> Thanks, 
> S.
> 
> PS: If it's useful and there's time I'd be fine with asking the above again 
> at the upcoming interim. 
> 
> [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-farrell-tls-wkesni/ 
> [2] 
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/113/materials/slides-113-dispatch-a-well-known-url-for-publishing-echconfiglists-00
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