On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 6:55 PM Paul Wouters <p...@nohats.ca> wrote:

> On Sat, 17 Feb 2024, Shumon Huque wrote:
> > I'm sure other folks will chime in with their views. But I want to ping
> Paul Wouters specifically - since you are one of
> > the expert reviewers for this registry and an author of
> domain-verification, could you express your opinion on the
> > specific request related to ACME (a pre-existing entry in that registry)
> and its new scoped challenge specific labels.
>
> That registry is really weak. first come first serve. In theory, I
> wouldn't technically be able to stop someone else from registering
> _acme-elvis-my-way-challenge.
>
> The main goal of the registry is to avoid people inadvertently using the
> same name. As such, I might push back a little on very generic names,
> but things which clearly carve a namespace for general use like _acme,
> are fine.
>

Thanks!


> Now speaking as author, not as the underscore registry expert:
>
> I'm not sure you would want the host/wildcard/domain difference in the
> QNAME though, because that might end up needing 3 DNS queries to find
> out. It would be best if things could come in with 1 DNS query. Make
> the variable part live in the RRdata, not the QNAME.
>

Yup, I agree that would be better. The DCV draft already has other
examples of expressing application specific characteristics in "name=value"
attributes of the resource record data (such an "expiry" attribute).

Perhaps, we can propose a "scope=" attribute, that can take on the
3 possible values of host/wildcard/domain. e.g.

_acme-challenge.www.example.org. 300 IN TXT "gfj9XqxxxxxxRg85nM
scope=wildcard"

or,

_acme-challenge.www.example.org. 300 IN TXT "gfj9XqxxxxxxRg85nM"
"scope=wildcard"

Eric (Nygren) - was there a compelling reason to encode the scope into
the qname label? Otherwise, I'm inclined to propose this change in
the draft.

Shumon.
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