On Feb 15, 2024, at 09:48, Wellington, Brian 
<bwelling=40akamai....@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 15, 2024, at 6:02 AM, Paul Wouters <p...@nohats.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> On Feb 15, 2024, at 04:37, Petr Špaček <pspa...@isc.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> If you think colliding keys should be allowed, please propose your own 
>>> limits for sensible behavior.
>> 
>> I do think they need to be allowed because they have always been allowed so 
>> far. Reasons for not allowing them seems to be implementation details. Sure, 
>> if the RFCs had warned implementers this wouldn’t have happened, and we can 
>> learn from that (and I gained appreciation and validation for whining about 
>> security and operational consideration sections)
>> 
>> You seem willing to (statistically) throw 1/65536 zones under the bus. That 
>> would roughly be 2500 .com domains if all of .com was signed (without key 
>> sharing)
>> 
>> I don’t see why we should do this.
> 
> A fairly simple way to deal with this issue is a Flag Day. As Ralf said in a 
> later post, the number of zones with colliding key tags is relatively small.

Anything above zero is significant.

>  It would certainly be reasonable to declare that at some time in the future, 
> colliding keys will not be handled by validators.

Why? Many people on this thread have said they have or will implement caps on 
how many collisions for a key set they will allow. An operational change such 
as that is vastly easier to implement than a flag day, and gets better results.

--Paul Hoffman

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