Two things buried in Joe’s message I want to build on:

From: DNSOP <dnsop-boun...@ietf.org> on behalf of Joe Abley 
<jab...@strandkip.nl>
Date: Wednesday, January 31, 2024 at 03:17
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>However, that will require new metadata to be bundled with domain registration 
>in transactions between registrant and registrar and between registrar and 
>registry.

One of the topics discussed was the boundary of the work.  We don’t want to 
alter the namespace, at least not at the start.  (I say “at least” as other 
progress may enable future features.)  We don’t want to alter the management 
model, that would upend operations, not improve the operability of the system.  
And we don’t want to alter the “stub resolver experience” so that applications 
are not required to change.  DELEG is meant to address the pain of operating 
the current publication protocol, the warts and rough edges in the messages and 
message passing.

The impact on the registration system wasn’t raised at the table.  I think 
implicitly, there was a desire to alter it for the better, namely in elevating 
the role of a DNS operator within registration (in having a registrant 
designate an operator).  But I suppose for the initial phase we can try to 
define DELEG within the constraints of the existing registration system.  But 
keep in mind that you can divide the registration system three ways (of course, 
more), some TLDs are operated under a contract that requires a specific set of 
standard behaviors (consisting of most generic TLDs), some TLDs (or ‘like 
TLDs’) are operated under various environments (mostly the jurisdiction TLDs, 
RIR’s and some NIR’s), and then there are registrations in all other parts of 
the DNS name space.

So - working within current registration data flows would help get the first 
DELEG out the door, one of the early desires of DELEG is to address the lack of 
presence of the operator in registration which suggests changes in registration 
data flows.

>There are various reasons why that might take a while, even in the most 
>optimistic success scenario for DELEG.

What the global public Internet lacks is a Project Manager, and this is one 
reason why deployments drag on for decades.  Incremental improvements need to 
be self-justifying, which is often not the case when investing in future 
infrastructure.  I don’t see an Internet Project Management Task Force ever 
being created - as in there are no Protocol Police - so it’s important to make 
sure the goals and motivation or justification, are clearly documented.  It’s 
said there is no profit in running DNS, DELEG is about cost reduction (more 
manageable, etc.).
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