Again thanks to mr Hoffman for minutes, here they are and uploaded in
the datatracker and our git repo

Thank you one and all for having great productive conversations!

tim
DNSOP WG
Interim meeting 2024-01-30 1700 UTC
Chairs: Benno Overeinder, Suzanne Woolf, Tim Wicinski
Minutes taken by Paul Hoffman
Only stuff said that happened at the mic is reported here
Agenda: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-interim-2024-dnsop
Materials: 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2024-dnsop-01/session/dnsop

Intro from the chairs
        This interim is for bootstrapping the topic before IETF119

Presentation on state of DELEG draft, Ralf Weber
        https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dnsop-deleg/

Legacy resolver compliance testing results, Roy Arends

Open discussion points in the draft
        Viktor Dukovni: Didn't see Microsoft's resolver tested; very different 
in origin
                Found the draft more confusing than illuminating
                Examples are haphazard
                Wants reorganization
                Wants a motivations document; what problem are we solving
        Roy: Maybe split the document into different topics
                This document is core
                Another document can have all the offerings
                Another document that gives an introduction to the whole thing
                This is a -00
        Ralf: Wanted to get it ready for the interim
                OK with splitting out motivations into a different draft
        Suzanne: this discussion is not about specifics in the draft

Initial reflections on DELEG, Paul Wouters

Open discussion: discussion and reflection on interim
        Suzanne: Process discussion not today
        Ralf: PaulW's proposal #1 didn't want to do this to prolong DELEG
                Can happen in parallel
                There are plenty of implementations that don't share names
        Viktor:
                The idea of having more records at the parent needs motivation, 
but seems mostly harmless
                Putting more records puts more pressure on resolvers under 
attack
        Warren Kumari: Process-related
                BoF request was for extensions
                IESG doesn't feel that you can have a BoF for something that 
doesn't exist
                Wants the BoF to be about DELEG itself
                        No assumption that people have been at interim
                        Maybe a WG-forming BoF
                        Need to be careful that DNSOPs folks participate
                        Thus, in OPS
                        Scheduled right after DNSOP so that there is overlap
        Roy: Will talk with Warren about the BoF request
        Viktor: Make the draft shorter and clearer
        Benno: Keep contributing to the DNSOP mailing list, specific text can 
go into the repo
        Peter Thomassen: Where to discuss this?
                Benno: On the mailing list
                Suzanne: This helps identify new work that might be spun off
                Benno: Protocol discussion on the mailing list
        Ralf: People coming early to DNS-OARC next week, there is an informal 
room on Wednesday
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