I support this plan, and am eager to see the logjam unblocked!

The mechanism for how we reintroduce the ECH option for SVCB can be debated 
separately. I like the idea of a separate small document, but can also see it 
being in the TLS draft or a bis of the SVCB document. Mainly that’s a question 
of who will spend the time to do the work, and where it will be easiest to get 
done. 

Tommy

> On Feb 24, 2023, at 6:33 AM, Ralf Weber <d...@fl1ger.de> wrote:
> 
> Moin!
> 
>> On 23 Feb 2023, at 18:39, Warren Kumari wrote:
>> Instead of just having all of these document stuck indefinitely, I'm
>> proposing that we:
>> 1: Ask the RFC Editor to return the document to the IESG & IETF[1].
>> 2: I return it to the WG.
>> 3: The authors remove the bits that rely on ESNI
>> 4: The document progresses "normally" - it gets another WGLC, IETF LC, IESG
>> Eval, etc. Hopefully this can be expedited - it's already gone though all
>> of these steps once, and the updated document would be very similar to the
>> original.
>> 
>> 5: If / when tls-esni is published, the svcb-https authors submit a -bis
>> (while will likely just be 'git checkout <current_version>'), and we
>> progress this just like any other WG document.
>> 
>> I've discussed this with the authors of the documents, the DNSOP and TLS
>> chairs, the relevant ADs and the full IESG.
>> 
>> However, before doing all this, I'd like to confirm that the WG doesn't
>> object to the plan….
> 
> I agree with this plan and as SVCB is already widely deployed and we need an
> RFC to point to and not a draft to get people not doing stupid things with it.
> 
> So long
> -Ralf
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