On Nov 17, 2022, at 3:02 PM, Roman Danyliw via Datatracker <nore...@ietf.org> 
wrote:
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> DISCUSS:
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> 
> The IETF has steered away from publishing protocol mechanisms with 
> dependencies
> on national cryptography as we do not have the ability to validate their
> security properties ourselves.  IETF stream documents typically rely on
> documents published in the Crypto Forum Research Group (CFRG) [1]; an open and
> peer-reviewed vetting process; or a review by the IRTF Crypto Panel [2] to 
> give
> us confidence in cryptographic algorithm choices. Since the described GOST
> mechanism doesn’t fit into these vetting criteria and the WG (based on the
> shepherd’s report) has not provided alternative analysis, it is not 
> appropriate
> to publish this document in the IETF stream.
> 

This is a note about precedent. draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc5933-bis explicitly states 
that it obsoletes RFC 5933 (heck, that's even in the filename!). The 
Datatracker information for RFC 5933 shows that it was in the IETF stream, and 
it came from the (now-concluded) DNSEXT WG of the IETF. So, even if the "IETF 
has steered away from publishing...", it has not always been successful in that 
steering. In fact, other RFCs defining GOST algorithm use also are in the IETF 
stream.

It feels like this DISCUSS ballot is asking for a non-IETF-stream RFC to 
obsolete an IETF-stream RFC. Yuck. Instead, it might be better to publish this 
in the IETF stream; separately, the IESG could then publish a statement that 
future national algorithm documents should not come through the IETF stream.

--Paul Hoffman

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