> On 2 Dec 2021, at 01:57, Vladimír Čunát <vladimir.cunat+i...@nic.cz> wrote:
> 
> On 01/12/2021 15.49, Mark Andrews wrote:
>> Black lies is “QNAME NSEC \000.QNAME NSEC RRSIG”.  There is no churn for 
>> "black lies”.  Black lies turns NXDOMAIN into NODATA.
>> 
>> "DNS Shotgun" can produce churn of NSEC if you ask for a type that is listed 
>> as existing but it doesn’t actually exist.  The NSEC returned is still valid 
>> for DNSSEC synthesis.
> 
> Oh, I'm sorry; a terminological problem.  I used "black-lies" for the overall 
> behavior of Cloudflare auths, as described in that blog article.  Maybe we 
> could extend the current terminology draft :-D
> 
> (Nit: about random QTYPE attacks, I can't see a point when you leave random 
> QNAME attacks undefended.)

Dropping them also sets a bad precedent as one then has to deal with “but 
foobar works with the bad type map” complaints.
-- 
Mark Andrews, ISC
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