Hi,

On 26-10-2021 01:56, Roy Arends wrote:

On 20 Oct 2021, at 14:14, libor.peltan <libor.pel...@nic.cz>
wrote:

Hi all,

although for me, as an implementer of an auth server, it's not too
important, I'd like to ask for clarification regarding the foreseen
reporting domain(s) setup in the (usual) case of many secondary
auth servers.

The draft says: "Each authoritative server SHOULD be configured
with a unique reporting agent domain."

I see two possible error situations:

1) the zone itself is wrongly signed, so all secondaries share the
same error 2) some of the secondaries respond wrongly from
correctly signed zone, so the error is slave-specific

IMHO the case (2) is far less common. And the case (1) doesn't
require per-secondary reporting domain, just per-zone.

Is it really recommended (in capitals) that the zone operator
prepares extra reporting domain for each secondary around the world
(it can be hundreds)?

If you have outsourced your secondaries to a company that has hundreds of secondaries I guess you can also set up a reporting agent domain like "company1.reporting-agent.example". and "company2.reporting-agent.example". It won't tell you exactly which server caused the problem, but at least it gives you some idea without having to set up hundreds of domains.

But I am also not convinced that the recommendation needs to be in capitals.


The domain owner may have contracts with more than one operator. The
operator may operate many authoritative servers, which not all serve
the same set of zones.

If the reporting agent domain is unique, the erroneous server can be
pinpointed faster. If all auth servers for a domain have the same
reporting agent domain, the reporting agent knows there is an error,
just doesn’t know where.

If so, it can cause a disclosure about which secondary the answer
is comming from, dunno if some zone operators are not willing to
conceal this.

In that case, the zone operator doesn’t have to deploy EDE reporting,
right?

The zone operator may still be interested in knowing about resolving issues. And DNS error reporting would still work if you have just a single reporting agent domain.


Matthijs



Roy


Thanks!

Libor

Dne 27. 04. 21 v 16:47 internet-dra...@ietf.org napsal(a):
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line
Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the
Domain Name System Operations WG of the IETF.

Title           : DNS Error Reporting Authors         : Roy
Arends Matt Larson Filename        :
draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-error-reporting-00.txt Pages : 12 Date : 2021-04-27

Abstract: DNS Error Reporting is a lightweight error reporting
mechanism that provides the operator of an authoritative server
with reports on DNS resource records that fail to resolve or
validate, that a Domain Owner or DNS Hosting organization can use
to improve domain hosting. The reports are based on Extended DNS
Errors [RFC8914].

When a domain name fails to resolve or validate due to a misconfiguration or an attack, the operator of the authoritative server may be unaware of this. To mitigate this lack of
feedback, this document describes a method for a validating
recursive resolver to automatically signal an error to an agent
specified by the authoritative server.  DNS Error Reporting uses
the DNS to report errors.


The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-error-reporting/



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https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-error-reporting-00


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