On Thu, Sep 9, 2021 at 12:13 PM Joe Abley <jab...@hopcount.ca> wrote:

> Hi Paul (W),
>
> On Sep 9, 2021, at 12:05, Paul Wouters <p...@nohats.ca> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 9 Sep 2021, Paul Hoffman wrote:
> >>
> >> Did you first ask the administrators of the zone in question before
> sending this message to a grooup that has no administrative power over the
> zone?
> >
> > No, I used this group as the umbrella contact, as I assumed the
> > knowledgeable people are here.
>
> The IETF (well, the IAB) has administrative control over the contents of
> the ARPA zone. I do not know in practice whether this extends to the
> machinery of how the zone is provisioned.


>
> The operation of the zone is carried out by PTI, I think. It is
> distributed to its authoritative servers (which are also root servers) in a
> process that is similar in some respects to the way the root zone is
> managed.
>
> I would drop a note to Kim Davies and ask his advice if you want to make
> some kind of progress.


Yup. My personal view is that the IANA/PTI folk running this are friendly,
competent and helpful.

While it seems perfectly plausible to make this kind of change by way of a
> published RFC with IAB review, it's not at all clear to me that such a
> heavyweight approach is necessary.


Yup - I don't *know* of any requirements specifying anything as
detailed/operational as which DNSSEC algorithms should be used, when to
roll (these!) keys, etc. That sort of level of operational detail is
(AFAIK) left to PTI/IANA as the operator.
If I'm wrong, and there is a specific requirement, I'm guessing that PTI
could point at it, and it could then by updated -- but I'd assume that this
is simply 1: they haven't migrated yet because, well, they haven't yet, or
2: they've made a conscious decision based on operational knowledge of who
uses the zone, being cautious with critical infrastructure, etc.
Whatever the case, a simple email to Kim/IANA does sound like the right
first step.


W


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