All,
We've uploaded the minutes from today's session (Thanks Paul Hoffman).
They can be found here:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2020-dnsop-02/materials/minutes-interim-2020-dnsop-02-202004231700.txt
Please check that any comments made are correctly recorded, and let the
chairs know if adjustments need to be made.
<https://github.com/DNSOP/wg-materials/blob/master/dnsop-ietf107/dnsop-ietf107-minutes-2.txt>
Also, please remember we have two open call for adoptions ongoing. If you
have opinions on these drafts, please speak up.
Avoid Fragmentation:
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dnsop/oJXlxnhcKNldxVSErWMiqYZiHKw/
Powerbind:
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dnsop/T5FSbg7gAMl5-94M4e7V6e1qMic/
Thanks
tim
# DNS Operations (DNSOP) Working Group
## interim-2020-dnsop-02
### 23 April 2020, 1500 - 1600 UTC
### Chairs
* Tim Wicinski [tjw.i...@gmail.com](tjw.i...@gmail.com)
* Suzanne Woolf [suzworldw...@gmail.com](suzworldw...@gmail.com)
* Benno Overeinder [be...@nlnetlabs.nl](be...@nlnetlabs.nl)
Benno went over the agenda, said that it was expected to run over time
YANG Types for DNS Classes and Resource Record Types, Ladislav Lhotka
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-iana-class-type-yang/
Thinks this is ready for WG LC, but also needs a review by the YANG doctors
Joe Abley: If IANA is not ready for keeping modules like this, could be
hinging
Ladislav: IANA already has some registries, but not like this one
There were objections, particularly from Paul Wouters
Only thing not clear is whether this publication mechanism is
acceptable to IANA
Michelle Cotton (IANA): IANA has been testing it out
Haven't seen the document yet, would like to do an early review
Will do an early review
Interoperable Domain Name System (DNS) Server Cookies, Willem Toorop
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-server-cookies/
First slide has the obligitory photo of yummy-looking cookies
Marc Groenewg: When will the NSD implementation be available?
Willem: Soonish, but waiting for RFC
Benno (NSD hat): Will implement when there is an RFC
Benno (chair hat): will schedule WG Last Call soon
DNS TIMEOUT Resource Record, Tom Pusateri
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-pusateri-dnsop-update-timeout/
Joe: Another use for an RRtype is to troubshoot
Likes this better than an EDNS0 type
Maybe do this just for RRsets instead of hash
Mark Andrews: Definitely need the hash for regeneration of timeout records
Such as for Bonjour
Jim Reid: Do you need to signal hash algorithm?
Tom: Preference is to define a single hash
Registry in the draft
Uses "method"
Benno: Will have call for adoption in a few weeks
Delegation Revalidation by DNS Resolvers, Shumon Huque
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-huque-dnsop-ns-revalidation/
Warren Kumari: There was other stuff in the "resimprove" work from the past
that was useful
Shumon: This covers all the useful stuff
Stéphane Bortzmeyer: Also related to QNAME minimization
Some auth resolvers timeout on explicit NS queries
Ralf Dolmans: This draft is opportunistic, QNAME minimization would not
conflic
Daniel Migault: Likes this kind of work
Why consider capping based on the NS record in the parent instead of
the DS
Shumon: Can't do that unless DNSSEC is universally deployed, which it
isn't
Can't rely on DS being the same
Paul Vixie: Could add DS adding this into the revalidating equation
But this is already what a validator will do
Mark: BIND has already done this for a decade
Benno: Wants more discussion on mailing list, then WG call later (but
before Madrid)
Suzanne: Wants to see a -01, then call for adoption
Use of GOST 2012 Signature Algorithms in DNSKEY and RRSIG Resource Records for
DNSSEC, Dmitry Belyavsky
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-belyavskiy-rfc5933-bis/
Stanislav Smyshlyaev: Supports work for crypto agaility
Can be used at least inside Russia
Valery Smyslov: Supports this change because old algorithm is deprecated
Jim: Supports work
Wants references to old ones to be deprecated
Warren: Wanted this to got through DNSOP, not AD-sponsored
Does it work with DNSSEC, not have discussions on the algorithm itself
Benno: Will schedule call for adoption
Summary of meeting, Benno
Summarized the upcoming calls for adoptions
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