Hello, First off, I have started implementing support for SVCB and HTTPSSVC as part of the dnspython library [0] and I'd be interested in doing some interop testing with other people's implementations.
I also have a few comments/questions about the draft, apologies if they have already been discussed in the past (haven't been following the draft from the start). 1. For interop testing purposes it would be very helpful if the draft listed commonly agreed upon code-points for the new RR types. Ideally in the form of an official early assignment from IANA, but if that's not possible picking a couple of codepoints at random from the "private use" range would also be helpful. In my implementation I'm currently using "65481" for SVCB and "65482" for HTTPSSVC. 2. The structure of the draft is a bit odd, as it lists a bunch of examples before introducing any of the records. This was a bit confusing to me, so I'd suggest moving sections 1.5 and 1.6 _before_ the examples (that is, immediately after the introduction). It might also be a good idea to just move the examples to an Appendix instead. 3. Would it make sense to move the ESNI/ECHO config paramenter to the ESNI/ECHO draft instead? This way the DNS draft wouldn't need to depend on the ESNI draft (so e.g. if ESNI ends up taking longer, this draft could be published without having to wait for it). 4. What is the point of differentiating between AliasForm and ServiceForm? Like, couldn't the draft just say that the SvcFieldValue is an optional field and be done with that? It seems like not having to explicitly differentiate the two cases would simplify the draft a bit without sacrificing much, though I might be missing something. 5. Section 2.1.1 says The presentation format for SvcFieldValue is a whitespace-separated list of elements representing a key-value pair, with an absent value or "=" indicating an empty value. It took me longer than I'd like to admit to understand the "with an absent value or "=" indicating an empty value" part. I'd suggest rewording that paragraph to something like: The presentation format for SvcFieldValue is a whitespace-separated list of key=value pairs (e.g. "key123=value1 keys456=value2"). When the value, or both the value and the "=" are omitted, the value should be interpreted as being empty. Or something better :) 6. In Section 2.2 it says (in reference to param field values): o an octet string of the length defined by the previous field. It might be good to say here that the format of this octet string is defined according to the corresponding SvcParamKey, and then reference section 6 for ths currently defined keys. The same applies for section 2.1.1 for the presentation format. 7. Section 4.3 says: All DNS servers SHOULD treat the SvcParam portion of the SVCB RR... Should it be SvcFieldValue instead of SvcParam? "SvcParam" is not mentioned anywhere else. 8. Maybe I'm missing something, but the following sentence in Section 6.4 seems wrong: When SvcDomainName is ".", server operators SHOULD NOT include these hints, because they are unlikely to convey any performance benefit. My understanding is that ipv4hint and ipv6hint are the way to solve the ESNI multi-CDN problem, so let's say I have "www.example.net" that CNAMEs to both "cname.cdn-a.example" and "cname.cdn-b.example". A client queries both A and HTTPSVC concurrently for "www.example.net", and receives two answers (the answer to the A query points to CDN A, while the answer to HTTPSSVC points to CDN B): www.xample.net 3600 IN CNAME cname.cdn-a.example cname.cdn-a.example 3600 IN A 192.0.2.1 and www.xample.net 3600 IN CNAME cname.cdn-b.example cname.cdn-b.example 3600 IN HTTPSSVC 1 . alpn=h3 esniconfig="..." My understanding is that in this case the client could end up connecting to 192.0.2.1 (CDN A) with CDN B's ESNI config (or e.g. with the wrong ALPN). So if the server doesn't provide IP hints there would indeed be impact on performance because the client would just straight up fail to connect initially (e.g. maybe CDN A doesn't support HTTP/3, but CDN B's HTTPSSVC says the client can use it, or just because of the wrong ESNI config). Long story short, I don't think the text should discourage setting ipv4hint and ipv6hint here. I get that it's SHOULD NOT and not MUST NOT, but it's pretty confusing nevertheless. 9. Speaking of multi-CDN, AFAICT the problem is mentioned only once in the whole draft and only in relation to ESNI. However this is not ESNI-specific and also affects e.g. HTTP/3 as per the example above. So I think it would be useful to go into a little more detail on this. 10. Section B.2: s/pther/other/ Cheers [0] https://github.com/rthalley/dnspython/pull/452 _______________________________________________ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop