On 12/09/2019 19:10, Viktor Dukhovni wrote:

That's the crux of the matter and, in short, *no*, that's not (or should
not be) the motivation.

SERVFAIL means,  and will continue to mean, I can't help you, better luck next
time (or elsewhere).

The new EDEs are *diagnostic* detail to aid in troubleshoots, but do not
override RCODEs.  They are not a more fine-grained RCODE one might "act on".
If we want more fine-grained *actionable* codes, there's plenty of room for
more values in the 12-bit EDNS RCODE.

[ I chatted off-list with Wes, the above appears to match his take, with a bit
   luck also rough WG consensus... ]

The very first two sentences of the draft are (to my reading) at odds with that:

"There are many reasons that a DNS query may fail, some of them
 transient, some permanent; some can be resolved by querying another
 server, some are likely best handled by stopping resolution.
 Unfortunately, the error signals that a DNS server can return are
 very limited, and are not very expressive."

Ray


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