There’s a reason people are ignoring them. There’s no mechanism for validating 
such change requests nor checking that they are authorized. RFC 1033 was 
written in a rather different time. 

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> On Jul 8, 2019, at 5:34 PM, Mark Andrews <ma...@isc.org> wrote:
> 
> The problem here is that there is no post delegation maintenance occurring.  
> If you are no longer under contract to serve the zone you should be able to 
> request the NS records pointing to your servers be removed.  If the zone 
> operator continues to list your servers in the zone you are able to request 
> that the entire delegation be removed with documented attempts to correct the 
> delegation first.
> 
> There where checks and balances built into the system. See RFC 1033. The 
> problem is that people are ignoring those checks and balances.
> 
> Mark
> 
>> On 9 Jul 2019, at 2:42 am, Michael J. Sheldon <mshel...@godaddy.com> wrote:
>> 
>> This is something that has bugged me for a long time, and I'd love to see a 
>> good solution to.
>> 
>> If a record is requested from an authoritative server, where the zone 
>> exists, but the records does not exist, the negative response is cached for 
>> <minimum> period of time.
>> 
>> If a record is requested from an authoritative server, where the zone does 
>> not exist, generally the response is REFUSED, but *this is not cached* by 
>> the requesting server. This results in a nearly continuous stream of 
>> retries, which continue to result in the same response. Our authoritative 
>> servers see no less than 15%, and sometimes as much as 25% of our worldwide 
>> traffic as these non-authoritative responses.
>> 
>> There needs to be a means to signal to a recursive server that it should not 
>> requery a REFUSED response for a specified period of time. Given that these 
>> responses to not have ANSWER records to put a TTL on, return a (new) EDNS 
>> record?
>> 
>> Michael Sheldon
>> Dev-DNS Services
>> GoDaddy.com
>> 
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