John I totally agree with you we need to Nerd Harder one the problem space, and folks are trying. But one way we Nerd Harder is to do experiments like this and study how it works, and use that moving forward.
I've been talking to folks over the past months on this problem space trying to grapple with quantifying what other folks see. Part of this reason is that my employer has this problem, and while my boss and I have noodled on the idea off and of for the past year, my feeling is that our Java developers will decide to solve this problem for their use case, and it will be done in their way makes their life easier and everyone else's life harder. I'd like to be in front of the problem, leading them toward my promised land than chasing them from behind nipping at their heels. Talking as a chair, I see this more of an Application of DNS Problem than a DNS Operations Problem, but I'm willing to be convinced otherwise. This means, the work may be out of scope for DNSOP. I do feel that whatever solution the IETF works we, we have to first accept that it will *not* replace the Public Suffix List initially. The PSL is a W3C entity, and while I feel they will look honestly at what the IETF may create, they are free to adopt or not adopt it for the PSL, and the IETF needs to accept that. We've not only have to solve the problem, we need to make a convincing case for the W3C to adopt. I find the IETF is great at the former, and struggles at times with the latter. Tim (mostly speaking as myself) On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 11:08 PM John Levine <jo...@taugh.com> wrote: > In article <CADyWQ+HVYAfVE0WSEPAG7Zz_OL+uM4DmHRLn6Y= > mapqze5m...@mail.gmail.com> you write: > >-=-=-=-=-=- > > > >If y'all care what gets published in a TLD, please take a look at > >https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dmarc-psd/ > >which is an experimental draft that will go into WGLC last call soon. > >This was driven by wanting to add _dmarc records > >into TLDs, per ICANN rules it needs to be an RFC. > > I'm not thrilled about it since I would prefer that we nerd harder on > the general domain boundary problems (the ones for which we all use > the PSL), but PSD for its particular use case of name trees seems > pretty harmless. > > R's, > John >
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