On 12/03/2019 21:11, Paul Vixie wrote:
> he's trying to achieve a political aim using technology.

Ok, now I think I understand and am pretty sure I disagree
with you there.

There are reasons to want confidentiality for DNS queries
and answers, and access patterns, for which the IETF has
achieved consensus. (See RFC7626) (*)

DoT is one way to tackle those problems. DoH is another.
I think an argument that DoH is "just politics" and is
not aiming to try provided a security/privacy mechanism to
tackle a problem on which the IETF has consensus falls on
that basis myself.

I fully agree that there are potential DoH deployments
that could have side-effects (more that DoT) that warrant
more discussion, but I figure your arguments along the
above lines are misdirected.

Cheers,
S.

(*) Ironically, one of the arguments against DoH raised
in this discussion is that it would expose that kind of
information from split-horizon deployments, so it seems
that even those concerned about DoH accept the problem
statement, which is helpful.



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