Sorry, I never surveyed the set of inconsiderate DCHP servers.

Thanks,
Tom

> On Aug 24, 2018, at 2:04 PM, Ted Lemon <mel...@fugue.com> wrote:
> 
> Can you give us an example?
> 
>> On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 1:56 PM Tom Pusateri <pusat...@bangj.com> wrote:
>> Sure. It’s not the thoughtful, well-behaved implementations that we worry 
>> about. It’s the ones that aren’t. This is a protection mechanism. (Belt AND 
>> suspenders..)
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Tom
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 24, 2018, at 1:36 PM, Ted Lemon <mel...@fugue.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The DHCP case isn't actually a problem today.   DHCP servers automatically 
>>> remove these records.   The ISC server has been doing this for 20 years, 
>>> and I'm pretty sure all the other servers that compete with it do too.
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 12:50 PM, Tom Pusateri <pusat...@bangj.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 24, 2018, at 9:54 AM, Ted Lemon <mel...@fugue.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 24, 2018, at 9:52 AM, Tom Pusateri <pusat...@bangj.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Yes, it was intended to be more general than for service registration.. 
>>>>>> It’s directly applicable to name registration for IP addresses. I can 
>>>>>> add a section on other uses if more motivation is desired. Mark Andrews 
>>>>>> had some uses as well that hopefully, he can share. If others have uses 
>>>>>> in mind that this solves I would love to hear about them.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The reason I'm asking is not that I don't think there are theoretical use 
>>>>> cases for what you are proposing.   I'm asking if there are actual use 
>>>>> cases.   How would this be used in practice?   What can't someone do 
>>>>> right now that they need to do and that this new technology enables?
>>>> 
>>>> Specifically, there are two applications mentioned in the draft.
>>>> 
>>>> 1. When a DNS server receives a dynamic DNS Update from a client 
>>>> registering its name after having received an IP address from an DHCP 
>>>> lease, the length of the DHCP lease can be tied to the length that the DNS 
>>>> address/PTR records stay in the authoritative server.
>>>> 
>>>> 2. When an RFC 6763 DNS-SD service is registered (including PTR, SRV, & 
>>>> TXT records), these records can timeout according to the lease lifetime 
>>>> contained in the update lease EDNS(0) option.
>>>> 
>>>> These are not theoretical. They solve practical problems that exist today. 
>>>> I think there are others associated with existing problems for sleeping 
>>>> devices and IoT devices that I need to research to more clearly answer 
>>>> your specific question but I think these two already fulfill that 
>>>> requirement.
>>>> 
>>>> Tom
>>>> 
>>>> 
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