> On 14 Dec 2017, at 11:31 am, Joe Abley <jab...@hopcount.ca> wrote:
> 
> Hi Ted,
> 
>> On Dec 13, 2017, at 17:14, Ted Lemon <mel...@fugue.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Can you point to the actual ambiguity?   The reason we said "one or more 
>> black hole servers" was to leave it up to the operator of .arpa to decide 
>> which black hole servers and how many of them.   That was a deliberate 
>> choice, not an omission.
> 
> The ambiguity is (for example) that "point to" is not a well-defined phrase, 
> given that we have two documented ways of doing this in the AS112 project, 
> and neither is "black hole server" which from the examples seems it refers to 
> servers made available from the AS112 project, but which examples surely are 
> non-normative.
> 
> This no doubt sounds pedantic to many, but I think (a) that a certain 
> precision is warranted in directions to the IANA and (b) given that the 
> obvious interpretation is not possible to implement accurately (the problems 
> with new delegations to the original AS112 servers having been well 
> documented) ambiguity is in fact *required* in order for anything to happen 
> here.

And if IANA didn’t understand the instructions they had a opportunity during 
the RFC creation process to request clarification.   It is a explicit step in 
the process to try to prevent issues like this.  IANA could have done the 
delegation at that point in time and had it in place before the RFC exited the 
RFC publication process and even asked “Is this correct?”.  IANA make similar 
queries for registry entries.

Creating a delegation is a operation that happens millions to times a day 
around the world as is setting up name servers to serve a zone.

As for “point to” read it as “delegated to” if you want to nit pick.   Also 
IANA was NOT instructed to delegate to the AS112 servers.  IANA was instructed 
to delegate to back hole servers and a example of which, the AS112 servers, was 
presented.

Mark

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