On 4/7/17 20:39, Paul Hoffman wrote:
(I'm surprised our philosophy-minded folks didn't answer this. I'll take a stab, acknowledging that I'm only a philosophy tourist.)

On 30 Mar 2017, at 13:41, Andrew McConachie wrote:

If a domain name is made up of labels, and labels are made up of octets, then can there be non-digital representations of domain names?

Yes. The octets in the labels can be encoded into writing systems, and there can be a commonly-recognized display format for the representation of a group of labels.

For example, if I spray paint 'www.example' on the side of a bus, is it not a domain name because it is made up of paint instead of octets?

It is a rendering (in paint, on a bus) a domain name in a commonly-accepted display format. Neither the paint nor the bus is the domain name.

Some history related to representation versus essence: https://essenceofbuddhism.wordpress.com/2016/04/19/what-the-finger-pointing-to-the-moon-analogy-really-means-from-zen-buddhism-the-buddha-in-the-shurangama-sutra/
/Ceci n'est pas une pipe./

If I understand correctly this definition of domain name incorporates actual pipes and explicitly not paintings of pipes. Since the draft says a domain name is essentially octets, and only octets, any representation of domain names not composed of octets is just a representation, not an actual domain name.

I don't believe that's how the term is used in common parlance, but I can see how that definition works for this document. Thanks for the clarification!

--Andrew

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