On 19 July 2016 at 09:19, Ralf Weber <d...@fl1ger.de> wrote:

> Moin!
>
> On 19 Jul 2016, at 9:00, Christopher Morrow wrote:
>
> > On Jul 19, 2016 8:36 AM, "Ralf Weber" <d...@fl1ger.de> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Except that if you have a decent size and hot Cache with refreshing
> >> these records will be in there anyway. IMHO you gained nothing, but I
> >> agree with Jim Reid that it would be good to have data on this.
> >
> > Nothing except some DNS round trips.
> > How could that matter though?
> As said I don't believe we have additional round trips between the
> recursive and the authoritative server in most of the cases. That is
> what we need data for though. DNS and applications that use DNS have
> unbelievable levels of caching. So while this all might apply to you
> if you run your own resolver just for you, it's not the case in big
> cache deployments most people use (be it their ISP or some big public
> resolver).
>
> While I tend to agree that the optimization gain between the recursive and
authoritative server is probably  minimal, the potential gain between the
recursive and the stub is huge.  Other than the fact that the explanation
focuses on the authoritative, I don't see any reason this needs to be
limited to recursive->authoritative conversations.  Indeed, with the OPT
signalling a recursive could obtain the EXTRA records and provide the same
optimized answers to stubs.
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