Hi,

On 17 May 2016, at 11:14 , Peter van Dijk <peter.van.d...@powerdns.com> wrote:

> On 17 May 2016, at 0:35, Shumon Huque wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 5:45 PM, bert hubert <bert.hub...@netherlabs.nl>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> It is in fact something you can do today. Some of the largest PowerDNS
>>> Recursor sites in the world run with 'root-nx-trust' enabled:
>>> 
>>> "If set, an NXDOMAIN from the root-servers will serve as a blanket NXDOMAIN
>>> for the entire TLD the query belonged to. The effect of this is far fewer
>>> queries to the root-servers."
>> 
>> PowerDNS's root-nx-trust is I believe an implementation of what is described
>> in nxdomain-cut:
>> 
>>    https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dnsop-nxdomain-cut-03
>> 
>> rather than the nsec-aggressive-use or cheese-shop drafts - those are about
>> inferring NXDOMAIN from NSEC/NSEC3 spans.
> 
> There is a subtle difference. We send the full query to the root, and get an
> NXDOMAIN for the full name, but with the setting enabled, we believe that the
> NXDOMAIN was generated from the top label. In other words, we rely on the
> ‘shape’ of the root zone in that every positive entry in it is only one label
> long.

It strikes me that this is a case where qname minimization would not only help 
privacy, but also help with this problem as the resulting NXDOMAIN will cover 
the entire non-existent TLD.

Johan Ihrén
Netnod

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