Dear Colleagues,

First, thanks for extensive and thoughtful discussion on the list and in our 
interim meeting last week on the way forward for the internet-drafts requesting 
special use names registry entries under RFC 6761.

This message is fairly long, and contains some impressions of where we are, a 
couple of actions we expect to take in the next few days, and some questions 
we’d like to pursue going forward. Please read all of it if you’re interested 
in the overall topic; we have significant challenges of both process and 
substance to navigate.

It's clear that applying RFC 6761 is challenging, and one of the outcomes we'd 
like to see from the current discussion is serious consideration of whether we 
need to update it with a new document suggesting additional guidelines or 
considerations.

First, some initial impressions:


.ONION (draft-appelbaum-dnsop-onion-tld-01):

* There’s significant support for the .onion request, in terms of the draft 
itself and what the TOR project is trying to accomplish by supporting the 
protocol and making the request.

* There are some reservations about .onion. We heard concerns that we might be 
setting a precedent for arbitrary appropriation of namespace; that the protocol 
may not be thoroughly documented, and that we’re not clear on how high the bar 
should be for a special use name.


.ALT (draft-wkumari-dnsop-alt-tld-06):

* There’s significant support for .alt as a possible alternative namespace for 
implementers who want namespace they’re certain won’t resolve in the global 
DNS, but are willing to be flexible on what namespace they use.

* There are operational questions about .alt that would have to be resolved in 
further development of the draft, such as whether to assume “leaked” queries 
would be sunk to AS112.

* There was some concern that implementers who want single-label or “TLD” 
namespaces would not accept .alt as a possible alternative

* There was some question as to what would be gained by .alt that we don’t 
already have in .invalid, which is also already reserved


HOME/CORP/MAIL (draft-chapin-additional-reserved-tlds-02):

* This is the most controversial of the RFC 6761 drafts and the one most driven 
by policy concerns

* The draft assumes that these names are commonly being used in local DNS 
contexts and often “leak” into the public internet. Specific uses are not 
documented.

* The most commonly used justification for this reservation was the risk of 
name collision if ICANN delegates these names in the production root zone.

* Since ICANN has said that they’re not currently planning to delegate these 
names, the justification further seems to assume that ICANN’s assurance of this 
is not a sound basis for believing that risk is contained

* There were questions about how to quantify name collision risk, or otherwise 
set a threshold for what operational characteristics of the appearance of a 
given name in the public internet would justify a conclusion that it should be 
“protected” by the IETF from delegation in the production root zone


ADDITIONAL NOTES:

There was some discussion of other drafts as well. In particular, there was 
some willingness to review the requests currently contained in 
draft-grothoff-iesg-special-use-p2p-names-04 if presented in separate drafts, 
as that would make it easier for the WG to properly consider those requests.


MOVING FORWARD:

We expect to take the following steps:

1. A call for adoption on the WG list of draft-appelbaum-dnsop-onion-tld-01. 
Given that there's clear support for it and a timeliness concern, we'd like to 
see if we can get to a consensus to move forward with it.

2. A call for adoption on the WG list of draft-wkumari-dnsop-alt-tld-06, and 
further discussion on the list to the operational questions mentioned above. 
We're all aware this isn't a complete solution to the perceived demand for 
special use names; can it be used to make the situation notably better?

3. Further discussion on the WG list of 
draft-chapin-additional-reserved-tlds-02. Given that we don't currently see 
consensus to move forward with it, and the support for it seems widely 
fragmented among technical and policy-based reasoning, we'd particularly like 
to see any NEW input on:

        * What is the specific operational impact being sought by adding these 
names to the special use names registry? Is the goal to have an impact on 
anyone besides ICANN?
        * Some of our discussion so far has suggested that there's a difference 
between basing a decision about a special use names delegation on intended use 
in a new protocol, such as .onion, and basing such a decision on unknown and 
unspecified use, perhaps particularly within the DNS. In the interests of 
evaluating future such requests that might also not be based on a specific 
protocol use, is there a bar we can set besides the discussion in the current 
draft of inferred name collision risk?

4. It's been pointed out that the maintenance of the special use names registry 
is complicated by the fact that people used to be able to assume the root zone 
was relatively stable, and this assumption has become less defensible. (ICANN 
is not currently accepting new applications for TLDs, and has no announced 
schedule for opening an application window again, but has said they plan a 
future application round.) Is there something that the IETF should be doing to 
help DNS implementers and operators handle this change in the environment?


thanks,
Suzanne and Tim
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