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On 05/15/2015 08:28 AM, Hugo Maxwell Connery wrote:
> Hi,
>
*** Thank you for this report.  I hope to read the minutes soon.

*

I note that you omitted to mention Namecoin and the .BIT pTLD.

*

You wrote, referring to overlay networks: "Their reluctance to use the
DNS for name resolution is possibly due to its unencrypted public
leaking of name searches."

Even if that could be a relevant argument for privacy, the technical
ground is way simpler than that, as introduced in the P2PNames draft:
the DNS is hierarchical, and these systems are peer-to-peer, and use
peer-to-peer mechanisms to manage, "delegate", and resolve domains.  It
would be like saying an electric car has reluctance using gasoline
possibly due to its liquid form.  P2P overlay networks are different in
nature, they rely on algorithms to ensure the attribution and resolution
of names can be automated and never conflict in the global namespace
they use.  They achieve this without administrative decisions, but
solely on the basis of cryptographic integrity.

*

You wrote: "DNSOP wishes to make claims individually, rather than in
bulk.  Thus, the grothoff draft is rejected (or at least unprioritised)
on this basis"

Was that discussed during the interim meeting?  I have an objection to
this form: although it makes sense to consider domain names for
reservation on an individual basis, there are at least two sound
technical reasons in favor of registering more than one domain at a time
:

1) proximity of specifications (e.g., .onion, .zkey, and .b32.i2p are
all self-authenticating cryptographic hashes of the destination service)
,

2) complementarity of names (in order to break past the limitations
described by the Zooko Triangle, .gnu and .zkey are complementary; the
Tor Project uses .onion for resolution, and .exit for tunneling to
specific exit nodes)

The latter means that if one domain is reserved and the other not, the
system is dicey.  This point is particularly important because it will
influence the next step for P2PNames.  As I mentioned already the plan
to move on is to turn the P2PNames draft into an informal RFC and
extract the domain reservation bits to respective drafts.  Although I
disagree that P2P overlay networks should be considered separately, I
even more disagree that they should not be considered as whole systems.
 Thus the most obvious split we consider is to do one draft per system,
which happens to be a single domain just for one (Namecoin).

I'm all ears, thank you for your continued attention,

==
hk

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