one might actually extrapolate here (and maybe look back a couple 
decades) ... there used to be many different transports around - 
and about the timethe DNS "gel'ed", most had become vestigal.  We
are now in the evoultionary "fork in the road" when we have an
emergent, new transport that demands attention.  I suspect that 
as things evolve, giving the DNS the ability to be transport agile
is a good thing.  So I don't want to be too short-sighted here and
bless one or two hacks that might ease todays transitional requirements.

We should have some clear long-range thought on transport agility

--bill


On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 10:49:54AM +0100, Jim Reid wrote:
> On 1 Apr 2010, at 05:25, Jason Fesler wrote:
> 
> >Our concern is more than just "os issues".  Many apps today already  
> >ask for A/AAAA.  The bigger issue to me is related to when the host  
> >tries connecting to the IPv6 address, using a route that exists but  
> >is either broken or suffers serious performance problems.  Users see  
> >that as "Site Down".  The percentage is high [see #1]; our business  
> >people would never let us deploy IPv6 unless we can mitigate it by  
> >things like selectively enabling IPv6 towards specific operators and  
> >end users that appear to have IPv6 "for real".
> 
> This is a valid concern. It does not and should not need to be  
> addressed (excuse the pun) by making authoritatiev servers do stupid/ 
> wrong/bad things. Others have already pointed out -- and it looks like  
> they will have to continue -- that it is just wrong to make a name  
> server return different data based on the network protocol used to  
> make the query. For starters, the thing making the query to an  
> authoritative server usually isn't the edge device. There's almost  
> always a resolving server and/or crippled middleware boxes in the  
> query path. And even if the edge device is IPv4 only, that doesn't  
> mean it has no interest in IPv6 addresses. [It's not just SMTP  
> delivery software that looks up MX records for instance.] Then there's  
> the impact on caches. If your scheme goes ahead, IPv6-capable hosts  
> will sometimes be told there's no IPv6 for some name because the  
> resolver cached that from an earlier query over IPv4 which resulted in  
> the authoritative server jumping to the wrong conclusion and then  
> telling lies.
> 
> Why don't yahoo approach the problem the same way google has done for  
> IPv6 to www.google.com? They only hand out AAAA records for this name  
> to ISPs who can demonstrate they have solid IPv6 connectivity. This is  
> ugly and distasteful. But it doesn't involve egregious damage to the  
> DNS or resolver/cache behaviour.
> 
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