On 3/4/2010 8:03 PM, Eric Brunner-Williams wrote:
On 3/4/10 10:53 PM, Doug Barton wrote:
On 3/4/2010 4:31 PM, Alex Bligh wrote:
May be it's not a thick vs. thin distinction per se, but a "what happens
if registrant falls out with registrar" distinction. Thick registries
that have a direct contract with the registrant (e.g. Nominet) tend tob
be rather less willing to let a losing registrar intermeddle. May be
this is isomorphic to the beneficial ICANN involvement suggested.
You're undoubtedly aware of this but in RRR parlance "thick" means that
the registry stores all of the registrant data, and in a "thin" registry
they store a subset (generally a very limited one) and a referral to the
registrar. The two terms have no reference to the nature of the
relationship between the registrant and the registry.
In the gTLD world the registrars jealously guard their relationships
with their customers (the registrants), and registries are not allowed
to have direct contact with them. This situation is unlikely to change
in any material way which is why I suggested ICANN involvement may be
necessary if there is agreement that conscious acts on the part of the
losing registrar will be required for the smooth transition of a secure
zone.
<multiple hats, but in particular, registrar hat == on>
I suggest that some registrars will be collaborative, and the recourse
to ICANN's registrar compliance staff is not the first alternative to
seek.
Well your first statement is a truism, and I am not suggesting that
getting ICANN involved is "the first alternative." In fact, I was
careful both times to say "may" as I wish that we lived in a perfect
world and that everyone acted in a manner that is best for the users.
However, my previous experiences in this area tell me that in the
universe of hundreds of registrars a non-trivial number of them are what
is euphemistically referred to as "bad actors," and need an incentive
stronger than "it's the right thing to do" in order to be convinced to
actually DO what's right.
Doug
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