Just a comment, it is common for people to make entries in private DNS for IP addresses outside their control, not sure about vice versa but it is no big deal.

I remember this client requirement way back in 2000

It was more like 2 projects in a customer environment with something being developed here and something being developed there.

the original company was say a site www.xyz.com(whose DNS entry was unknown to me) with some IP range which was not common to the 2 clients.
more like his DNS had an entry say:

www.xyz.com IN A p.q.r.s

there was an IPSEC tunnel to the place where the p.q.r.s was located and their servers were not in our control.
and the local client's domain was say:  project.clientdomain.com

now because of the way the stuff/application was being built, i had to do something like

www.xyz.project.clientdomain.com IN A p.q.r.s

now is it right or wrong i dont know, im not a java developer, but this is what was done back then,

(from what i was given to understand as to why the local client could not use the other person's DNS was security issues, only the IP addresses were exposed)

-thanks
Alok

On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 16:44:27 +0530, Edward Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

At 10:55 +0000 2/19/07, Tony Finch wrote:
On Mon, 19 Feb 2007, Edward Lewis wrote:

3) I don't buy this as a security risk. I don't think there is a problem
 here.

It allows you to use a DNS server to tunnel past a firewall. It allows you
to use a DNS server to probe a private network.

How?

Let's say I am an iterating server.

I send out a query

I get a referral effectively saying to go to 10.1.1.1.

I try my query (again) to that address

Either I will have a 10.1.1.1 locally and it has a port 53 resident DNS
or
I have a 10.1.1.1-enclosing subnet locally
or
I have a default route to the Internet

case 1 - the server will probably reply with a lame indication
case 2 - the UDP's will dry up in the ether
case 3 - the UDP will be dropped at a border router or the ISP's router

How would the person that put the 10.1.1.1 address into the DNS benefit from this in the sense that it compromises my security?




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