You waited less than an hour before proclaiming the list defunct? It's Sunday in most of the world. Most of us are doing other things than sitting on this list.

That said, my initial thought is that your server answered your question. Nothing more. Did you ask it for the A record for googlemail.l.google.com ? That might have told you more.

Lyle Giese
LCR Computer Services, Inc.

On 07/06/14 13:38, Mohamed Lrhazi wrote:
I am thinking this list is not appropriate for some of my questions... Could someone suggest a better one, maybe as active and rich, as this one, but more appropriate for general DNS discussions?

Thanks a lot,
Mohamed.


On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Mohamed Lrhazi <ml...@georgetown.edu <mailto:ml...@georgetown.edu>> wrote:

    We had a little mail outage which turned out to be caused by one
    of our caching DNS servers returning the bellow incomplete reply.

    Clearing the cache on the problematic server fixed the issue....

    Am thinking it is now impossible for me to find the root cause in
    this instance... but wondering if you guys could hint at what
    could cause such a problem... bugs in the DNS servers involved?
    temporary misconfig at Google's servers? network issue?

    The setup is a bit convoluted:

    cache server --> resolver cache server --> Internet

    The fix was clearing at the first server. so I am guessing at some
    point the resolver gave the incomplete answer.

    Thanks a lot,
    Mohamed.

    ?  ~  dig mail.google.com <http://mail.google.com>
    @141.161.100.201 <http://141.161.100.201>

    ; <<>> DiG 9.9.5-3-Ubuntu <<>> mail.google.com
    <http://mail.google.com> @141.161.100.201 <http://141.161.100.201>
    ;; global options: +cmd
    ;; Got answer:
    ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 20414
    ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 4, ADDITIONAL: 5

    ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
    ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
    ;; QUESTION SECTION:
    ;mail.google.com <http://mail.google.com>.INA

    ;; ANSWER SECTION:
    mail.google.com
    <http://mail.google.com>.10213INCNAMEgooglemail.l.google.com
    <http://googlemail.l.google.com>.

    ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
    google.com <http://google.com>.96485INNSns2.google.com
    <http://ns2.google.com>.
    google.com <http://google.com>.96485INNSns3.google.com
    <http://ns3.google.com>.
    google.com <http://google.com>.96485INNSns4.google.com
    <http://ns4.google.com>.
    google.com <http://google.com>.96485INNSns1.google.com
    <http://ns1.google.com>.

    ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
    ns3.google.com <http://ns3.google.com>.108462INA216.239.36.10
    <tel:216.239.36.10>
    ns4.google.com <http://ns4.google.com>.108462INA216.239.38.10
    <tel:216.239.38.10>
    ns1.google.com <http://ns1.google.com>.108462INA216.239.32.10
    <tel:216.239.32.10>
    ns2.google.com <http://ns2.google.com>.108462INA216.239.34.10
    <tel:216.239.34.10>

    ;; Query time: 22 msec
    ;; SERVER: 141.161.100.201#53(141.161.100.201)
    ;; WHEN: Sun Jul 06 12:42:09 EDT 2014
    ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 207





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