On 05/16/2013 12:52 AM, Vernon Schryver wrote:
From: Jared Mauch <ja...@puck.nether.net>

Because of the FP ratio presented at the DNS-OARC meeting this
past week.  It's suitable on a recursive resolver, where RRL is most effective
on an authority.

See

https://indico.dns-oarc.net/indico/getFile.py/access?contribId=4&resId=0&materialId=slides&confId=0

Page #12

I wonder to which RRL implemetation those numbers apply?

Please recall that those slides appeaer to be from NLnet Labs and
that one of my concerns with the NLnet Labs RRL implementation is
the possibility of significantly more false positives than what I
hope are the practically none from the BIND9 RRL code.

The numbers apply to BIND9.9.2-P1 + RRL (it is in the report).

I also wonder about the definition of "false positive."  There are many
plausible candidates.

I agree. Basically it is a query from an attacker that is not being dropped. I know it has more to it than that. It might be a good idea to define the term in the technical note. I can write some initial text, if that is appreciated.

This effectively does slip=1 and does away with any amplification and just 
makes it
a pure reflection attack.  Still not ideal, but doesn't amplify.

On the contrary, as I just now wrote in the ratelimits mailing list
http://lists.redbarn.org/mailman/listinfo/ratelimits
your patch does not affect amplification by authorities.
For example, if applied to an authority for isc.org,
`dig +dnssec isc.org any @ams.sns-pb.isc.org'
would still reflect almost 4 KBytes for each 60 byte ANY request.


Vernon Schryver    v...@rhyolite.com
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