maintain it if I had to. The various NetworkManager alternatives that have sprung up at Devuan.
Could you point to or list those alternatives, please? I used Devuan occasionally since Beowulf release but now am going to say goodbye to Debian. Sometimes I need alternatives even for ifupdown. Here's my recent bicycle, btw, that might explain my needs: https://declassed.art/en/blog/2022/07/22/ethwifi-throw-away-networking-tools-and-keep-simple-things-simple And, I hope you excuse a newbie for a bit more: I had to use services of a corporation of the good to post this message. I'm a bit passionate about self-hosted software and email is not an exclusion. Never had problems for last year with it but mailing lists spotted the problem: Client host rejected: cannot find your hostname Yes, I'm aware of ptr records, but... setting up email is still complicated as it was 20 years ago. I see no progress over these years. Ideally I'd like to run an email server on my smartphone (and a backup relay on another one). If anyone could do that easily that would make email truly decentralized but there are still obstacles on the way to freedom. It's funny, working for a company in a "country of freedom" I had to ask permission to commit bugfixes to free software we used (finally, those commits did not happen). Now I'm totally liberated but I'm stuck in a devil country and have to use dnat'ed channels over vpn to my actual servers. So I don't want to touch ptr records. How it comes I had no problems with sending regular emails so far? Yes, I'm curious too. You know what? The corporation of the good, where most of my few recipients are, _does not check ptr records_! Wow! After discovering that I immediately commented out these lines in my smtpd.conf: #filter "rdns" phase connect match !rdns disconnect "550 DNS error" #filter "fcrdns" phase connect match !fcrdns disconnect "550 DNS error" If _they_ are not restrictive why am I still on the devil side so far? Did I get tons of spam? No. Anyway I don't delete spam for future analysis if I ever want to write my own mail server. And, dkim checker still works well. Well, I just wrote a draft for my next blog post, sorry. Anyway, I don't appeal to anything, this is just feedback. Who knows what your fairly elected presidents do with the internet tomorrow? Just an allusion, a similar thing happened to Debian. Axy
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