Sorry, I copied/pasted when I should have cut/paste. I apologize. rod
On 1/26/22 10:28 PM, Rod Rodolico via Dng wrote: > Ok, on my chromebook, under the Linux subsystem, I have a mac of > 00:16:3e:xx:xx:xx:xx > Which is the signature for a XenSource virtual MAC address. See > https://maclookup.app/search/result?mac=00%3A16%3A3e or > https://dnschecker.org/mac-lookup.php?query=00-16-3e > > This indicates to me that this is a virtual, which I verified by > apt -y install virt-what > > virt-what > > Which returned that it was running either lxc or kvm. I'm betting kvm. > > In this case, the virtual (the Linux subsystem) will be running under > something like libvirt, with the network in bridge mode, and the Linux > subsystem getting an IP from the DHCP server on that machine. So, your > mac and IP will not be visible to the outside. (I do a lot of > virtualization, BTW). Think of your Chromebook as a baby router. > > Your router can only set the IP on the chromebook, not the Linux > subsystem. If you open the browser to chrome://system, and go down to > ifconfig, then expand that, you'll see something like arc_ns0, arc_ns1, > etc... Those will all be in the range that ChromeOS is using for your > Linux subsystem. On my machine, arcbr0 is the actual bridge. Then, you > keep going down and, on my system, I find wlan0, which is the NIC for > the actual Chromebook. > > On 1/26/22 4:48 PM, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: >> On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 1:04 PM Rod Rodolico via Dng <dng@lists.dyne.org> >> wrote: >>> >>> FYI, I'm doing the same thing. I have spent some time setting up a >>> Chromebook "securely" (in theory), though mainly to access a Linux >>> Terminal Server over a VPN. >>> >>> First, are you using the built in Linux subsystem? When I bring up the >>> ChromeOS terminal (ctrl-alt-T, not the linux subsystem), the crosh >>> prompt does not have the ip or the ifconfig commands. However, when I >>> look at my network connection (via the GUI), I'm seeing an IP in my >>> network range. >> >> I have used the 'dev' mode and set up debian in it. >> Not used to pure command line (long ago Mac background spoiled me for >> that) so I'm trying to install a dual boot system. One issue is that the >> screen keyboard doesn't (on a Lenovo 10e (IIRC) chromebook anyway) >> have control and alt keys so that means there are some things that are >> too 'kinky' to do. >>> >>> I went ahead and installed the Linux subsystem again (I'm spending a lot >>> of time playing on it) and my IP for that is 10.115.92.205/28, so it >>> looks like the Linux subsystem is using using some kind of virtual IP, >>> similar to what virtlib does by default. >>> >> Well - - - the MAC address the machine gives is different than that at >> the router and the ip address at the router keeps changing - - argh! > > Ok, on my chromebook, under the Linux subsystem, I have a mac of > 00:16:3e:xx:xx:xx:xx > Which is the signature for a XenSource virtual MAC address. See > https://maclookup.app/search/result?mac=00%3A16%3A3e or > https://dnschecker.org/mac-lookup.php?query=00-16-3e > > This indicates to me that this is a virtual, which I verified by > apt -y install virt-what > > virt-what > > Which returned that it was running either lxc or kvm. I'm betting kvm. > > In this case, the virtual (the Linux subsystem) will be running under > something like libvirt, with the network in bridge mode, and the Linux > subsystem getting an IP from the DHCP server on that machine. So, your > mac and IP will not be visible to the outside. (I do a lot of > virtualization, BTW). Think of your Chromebook as a baby router. > > Your router can only set the IP on the chromebook, not the Linux > subsystem. If you open the browser to chrome://system, and go down to > ifconfig, then expand that, you'll see something like arc_ns0, arc_ns1, > etc... Those will all be in the range that ChromeOS is using for your > Linux subsystem. On my machine, arcbr0 is the actual bridge. Then, you > keep going down and, on my system, I find wlan0, which is the NIC for > the actual Chromebook. > >> I would like to use this thing for reading pdfs away from my desk but >> I'm not sure how to get things onto it. The expectation is that I'm going >> to use ms googly's drive or dropbox - - - no cottin pickin way!!!!!! to >> both. I use scp on my network but that means I need to know the ip >> address and be able to ssh into or out of it - - - I can't. >> The ssh port (#22 IIRC) is blocked - - - how's that for stupid. Likely >> everything is blocked but ms googly's stuff - - - that's the idea behind >> android anyway AFAIK - - - I'm not impressed. Although - - - if I really >> don't like this thing I think my wife might like it but then I wanted a >> tablet >> she's already got one (LOL)! > > I use the Nextcloud app to connect to my nextcloud instance. Works > pretty well. > > 1. However, I did install Ghost Commander, which is a Commander type app > that will do an SFTP connection. I used that to copy some files locally. > > 2. Additionally, if you open the ChromeOS File Manager, open the three > dots in the upper right, then go to Services, you'll see the ability to > make a connection to an SMB File Share, if that is an option. > > 3. Or, do what I finally broke down and did. I picked up a 256G Cruzer > Fit USB drive (small form factor), plugged it into my computer, copied > all my e-books, music and several movies, then plugged it into my > Chromebook. > > BTW, I'm not sure Ghost Commander is available in the standard Google > Play Store. I get a lot of stuff from F-Droid (https://f-droid.org/). > Used it a lot on my Android devices, but was a total PITA for ChromeOS. > Let me know if you want the instructions. > > I don't know how many other people would be interested in this, so if > you want, we can take the discussion off list. Or, if anyone in the list > wants to have the blow by blow, let us know and we'll keep it in the list. > > Rod > >> >> Thanks for the tips!! >> >> Regards >> _______________________________________________ >> Dng mailing list >> Dng@lists.dyne.org >> https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng >> > -- Rod Rodolico Daily Data, Inc. POB 140465 Dallas TX 75214-0465 US https://dailydata.net 214.827.2170 ext 100 _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
