Le 13/11/2021 à 20:46, Steve Litt a écrit : > k...@aspodata.se said on Sat, 13 Nov 2021 12:42:51 +0100 (CET) > >> Steve Litt: >>> John Morris via Dng said on Fri, 12 Nov 2021 17:26:52 -0600 >>>> On Tue, 2021-11-09 at 01:56 -0500, Steve Litt wrote: >> ... >>>> The size of the OS is just so small now, compared to storage media >>>> and data files. Even a small SSD will easily hold all of /usr for >>>> all but the most bloated installs on old obsolete storage media. >>>> So simply including /usr in the root filesystem makes sense for >>>> almost all use cases. >> Size is not the only reason. >> You might want to have a separation for other reason. >> >> ... >>> Which brings up another beef I have: Why don't they build Ext4 and >>> maybe a couple other mainstream filesystems into the kernel, so if I >>> want, I can boot without initramfs? What would it cost? >> ... >> >> I use it all the time. >> >> Just do it yourself, it just cost you a little time, or do you >> volunteer to maintain a such kernel for devuan ? > Hi Karl, > > I think it's more than just a little time. Every time the kernel > updates, you need to get the new kernel's source, recompile, and > replace the new kernel. > > It *is* an interesting idea though. > AFAIR you can install a Debian/Devuan system without installing a kernel package. I did it still a decade ago on Powerpc-based SBCs: I compiled my own kernel and built my own initramfs and it prepared the system in a way that mimicked what Debian was expecting to find after the pivot-root. I did it with a custom initramfs because the boards were diskless but you can always do all this initial preparation from a dedicated partition if you prefer. The thing is after that you must switch to Debian proper by a pivot-root or switch-root.
AFAIR, what the Debian init sequence (starting after pivot-root) expects is to find /, /proc /sys, /run and /dev already mounted. And for what regards the kernel, you upgrade it at your own pace, following your own needs. It is essentially decoupled from the rest of the distro. -- Didier -- Didier -- Didier _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
