Antony Stone said on Wed, 28 Jul 2021 23:42:52 +0200 >On Wednesday 28 July 2021 at 23:29:55, Steve Litt wrote: > >> Every Linux distro's install media should have all drivers available >> during installation. After installation, if the user wishes to >> remove all non-free from his computer, he can do so. >> Or, the installation process can come with an "include nonfree >> drivers and blobs" switch that defaults to "yes". > >I agree that the *install media* should have all drivers available, so >they can be used for the installation process.
Yes! > >It should still be the user's choice as to whether to *install* those >drivers into the working system, or whether simply to *use* them for >the installation process itself (either may be a valid choice, >depending on what hardware we're talking about). Yes, and I'd like the default to be "use nonfree". > >It would, of course, be good of the installer to point out that "if >you don't choose to install this non-free driver, then that part of >your system will very likely not work". Yes! > >> I don't care what Debian does, I'd suggest that Devuan's default >> install include all the non-free drivers, firmware and blobs that >> Devuan has, and just have a way to shut it off for the more >> Stallmanesque among us. > >I agree with this, because: > >> adopting a zero-tolerance for nonfree during install drives people >> away from free software in droves. > >We should make it easy for people to install Open Source software on >whatever hardware they have, if it can somehow be supported. If that >then gives the user a personal dilemma between "use this hardware with >non-free software" or "use only free software and miss out on the >hardware", then at least that's their choice, but at present they >don't even get the choice - the hardware simply doesn't work with free >software, so they can't even try out free software on the (rest of >the) hardware they have. X actly!!! SteveT Steve Litt Spring 2021 featured book: Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist http://www.troubleshooters.com/techniques _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng